Large Scale Central

Piko New 2014 Camelback

Bill I know of a dealer who is selling them for $400
Mike

Hey just found a cab forward camelback, LOL

(http://collections.lakeforest.edu/files/original/9f7bbcf8460113e1b2e7b4d8cc720556.jpg)

Mark
Are you going to be printing this one out?

Mark Dash said:

Hey just found a cab forward camelback, LOL

(http://collections.lakeforest.edu/files/original/9f7bbcf8460113e1b2e7b4d8cc720556.jpg)

Eyebleach!!! Quickly! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS

tac Foley said:

Mark Dash said:

Hey just found a cab forward camelback, LOL

(http://collections.lakeforest.edu/files/original/9f7bbcf8460113e1b2e7b4d8cc720556.jpg)

Eyebleach!!! Quickly! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH!

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS

It occurred to me that if this loco had suffered a boiler explosion, we could very well have had the first man into space years before Gagarin.

Sean McGillicuddy said:

Mark
Are you going to be printing this one out?

them old puffers are before my time, not on my to print list :wink:

Piko Camelback announced on sale here in UK for £450.00…

That’s $770.00 US or $3150 dog dollars…

PIKO just have to be jesting.

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS

Wow tac that is really high! I have seen it here for $450 US at Trainworld, maybe someone just confused the dollar symbol with the pound symbol.

Maybe time to give Trainworld a ring and see what the shipping to your neck of the woods is, or just wait till your next US visit and then smuggle it back disguised as a very very big summer sausage.

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200906351

Vic Smith said:

Maybe time to give Trainworld a ring and see what the shipping to your neck of the woods is, or just wait till your next US visit and then smuggle it back disguised as a very very big summer sausage.

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200906351

One can’t smuggle anything into the UK as “sausage” unless it has the correct percentage of cereal content.

Like , 100% .

Mike

OOps…not so.

Our local butcher was hauled over the coals by Trading Standards for advertising 100% all meat sausages. It was found on testing they were 99%. Supermarket sausages… forget them…Rubbish…

Vic Smith said:

Wow tac that is really high! I have seen it here for $450 US at Trainworld, maybe someone just confused the dollar symbol with the pound symbol.

Maybe time to give Trainworld a ring and see what the shipping to your neck of the woods is, or just wait till your next US visit and then smuggle it back disguised as a very very big summer sausage.

http://www.wholesaletrains.com/Detail.asp?ID=200906351

:slight_smile:

tac

IF you fancy one Tac…£319 incl postage from Modellbahn Lippe Germany…

Ross Mansell said:

OOps…not so.

Our local butcher was hauled over the coals by Trading Standards for advertising 100% all meat sausages. It was found on testing they were 99%. Supermarket sausages… forget them…Rubbish…

Cynical joke Ross .

As a fellow Warwickshire man , I thought you may have recognised the sardonic .

Mike , raised Castle Bromwich , favourite castle to visit--------KENILWORTH !!!

Mike Morgan said:

Ross Mansell said:

OOps…not so.

Our local butcher was hauled over the coals by Trading Standards for advertising 100% all meat sausages. It was found on testing they were 99%. Supermarket sausages… forget them…Rubbish…

Cynical joke Ross .

As a fellow Warwickshire man , I thought you may have recognised the sardonic .

Mike , raised Castle Bromwich , favourite castle to visit--------KENILWORTH !!!


Welshman in exile Mike…living here amongst all the Southern poseurs who have moved in!

First post here, and of course I’m going to gripe about something. So much for a good first impression!

Why are there so few “ordinary” North American steam engines in G, the kind that made up 99% of US and Canadian locomotives in the real world?

It seems like the manufacturers for this scale/gauge/ballpark produce three kinds of steam engines: giant rare engines, tiny tank engines, and strange ugly toylike engines like this Camelback. Sometimes a couple of those categories are combined. For example, the only steam engine in the MTH catalog is… a Triplex??

USA Trains starts with a tank engine, then goes straight to a Hudson and a Big Boy. No Connies, Mikes, Pacifics, or Mountains allowed.

Accucraft makes a 2-6-0, that’s nice. Then it jumps to a 2-10-2 and an Allegheny.

LGB makes (made?) a USRA 2-8-2. It’s almost too expensive to risk taking it outside, but at least it’s available. Aristo made, or someday will make again, the kind of engines I prefer and can just barely afford, but apparently they are very bad QA-wise, or they are made for a mythical 50mm track gauge, or the wiring scheme is unique to each box, or the company’s out of business. Or something.

What’s wrong with just plain ol’ steam engines, big enough to see but small enough to be carried by one person, and cheap enough to be relettered, repainted or kitbashed? Maybe I just don’t understand business! Actually, no maybes about that…

Patrick

For mainline 1/29-ish steam we have now or have been offered in the past:

LGB: 2-4-0/0-4-0 switcher, 2-6-0 mogul, 2-8-2 mike

Lionel: 4-4-2 atlantic

Aristo: 0-4-0 shifter, 4-6-2 pacific, 2-8-2 mike, 2-8-0 connie

USA: 4-8-4 hudson, 0-6-0 docksider

Accu: 0-6-0 shunter, 0-4-0 shifter, 0-4-0T docksider, 2-6-0 mogul (+ lots of others in past)

Piko: 2-6-0 mogul, 0-6-0 switcher, 0-6-0 camelback switcher

Granted there are huge gaps in whats been offered, but then this is a small niche scale so mfrs feel they need to produce what they think will sell, especially when today production runs are going to be much smaller and more expensive, so they are going for the wow-bang factor in some cases, leaving meat & potatoes stuff off the menu. Sad but that’s the way it is.

Patrick, another thing they may be considering is that fact that many garden railroads are small. so the small 4 coupled (0-4-0, 2-4-0, 4-4-0, 2-4-4) engines are well suited to small railroads, as are the Moguls. Then there are the empires, clubs and individuals, who relish the great spaces they have a just love to run the monster Big Boys, Challengers, Mallets and such.

Maybe I am totally wrong here, but that’s the impression I get. Small sells because most railroads are small. And the limited run, huge stuff sells to those folks who have the cash-flow and space to have those things… The middle of the road, mundane (as if) locomotives have just sort of been overlooked.

I have 3 Pacifics, and I seldom run them. With the upgrades I have done to the Switch and curve in Finlyville, I just might be able to run them again. A Mikado would be just a bit much on my little railroad.

Vic and David, I bet you are right. And I imagine the development and manufacturing cost difference between a medium-sized Mike and a behemoth 2-10-4 is small, while the purchase price difference can be huge.

Still, it’s a bit of a shame. But I come from HO which is a vast market, to G which is relatively small.

I bought an Aristo Mike several years ago, immediately took it apart with the intention of kitbashing it, and put it away when real life intervened. Pulled it out of the closet a few days ago and have started designing an Erie N1 Mike around the power chassis. Really worried about how to deal with the valve gear mods and such. Will have the new boiler and cab 3D printed. But that’s more appropriate for another thread probably…

Patrick, welcome to LSC and the wacky world of LS. In LS it always seems to be either the “WOW” factor or the “Cute” factor and very little reality plays into either.

Anyone trying to establish the feel of an “everyday” steam railroad has a problem, unless Colorado NG is a consideration. Sad state of affairs.