Thanks HJ!
I live in Colorado and have ridden both the Cumbres & Toltec and the Durango & Silverton. Wonderful fun. Scenery along the D&S is unbelievable, I’d say some of the most beautiful in the world.
But for some reason it’s grungy old Northeastern std gauge that does it for me. Who knows why!
Patrick Underwood said:
Thanks HJ!
But for some reason it’s grungy old Northeastern std gauge that does it for me. Who knows why!
HEY! I like my "grungy old Northeastern (narrow) gauge. 
Patrick, yea I like the more work a day look myself. I also like narrow gauge. I don’t think I could convincingly use a camel back locomotive. But, if one were to come up on sale, at give away prices, I just might have to figure out how to have one on my railroad.
David Maynard said:
Patrick Underwood said:
Thanks HJ!
But for some reason it’s grungy old Northeastern std gauge that does it for me. Who knows why!
HEY! I like my "grungy old Northeastern (narrow) gauge.
Patrick, yea I like the more work a day look myself. I also like narrow gauge. I don’t think I could convincingly use a camel back locomotive. But, if one were to come up on sale, at give away prices, I just might have to figure out how to have one on my railroad.
My favorite narrow-gauge is the Newfoundland, with its cool-looking Mikes. I could allllllmost be convinced to do it in G, instead of my proposed Eerie & Miskatonic RR which uses a combination of Erie and CPR hand-me-downs.
Patrick Underwood said:
David Maynard said:
Patrick Underwood said:
Thanks HJ!
But for some reason it’s grungy old Northeastern std gauge that does it for me. Who knows why!
HEY! I like my "grungy old Northeastern (narrow) gauge.
Patrick, yea I like the more work a day look myself. I also like narrow gauge. I don’t think I could convincingly use a camel back locomotive. But, if one were to come up on sale, at give away prices, I just might have to figure out how to have one on my railroad.
My favorite narrow-gauge is the Newfoundland, with its cool-looking Mikes. I could allllllmost be convinced to do it in G, instead of my proposed Eerie & Miskatonic RR which uses a combination of Erie and CPR hand-me-downs.
The Newfie Bullet would be perfect, Bash whatever in 1:24 and you’re all set for the 45mm track gauge. And there is a lot of stuff available in 1:24 - doll house accessories, cars of almost any vintage, figures etc. etc. Model Builder Supplies http://tinyurl.com/kuogtpq is just one source for all that good stuff.
“Newfie Bullet”?
Oh yes, I have plenty of 1:24 vehicles, many too modern for my (originally) chosen era. But they would work out fine for a museum railroad. And since 1:24 is such an easy gauge (just kidding), scale for me to model in, that’s what scale I model in.
“Newfie Bullet”
The nickname is highly ironic. 
Patrick Underwood said:
“Newfie Bullet”
The nickname is highly ironic.
Well, there are plenty of Newfie jokes up here, but the Newfies also have a good sense of humour, the nickname for the meandering train line was very apt. Legend has it that there were many extra, unscheduled stops for moose and other wild life along the line.
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Patrick Underwood said:
“Newfie Bullet”
The nickname is highly ironic.
Well, there are plenty of Newfie jokes up here, but the Newfies also have a good sense of humour, the nickname for the meandering train line was very apt. Legend has it that there were many extra, unscheduled stops for moose and other wild life along the line.
Hmmm… you’re not very far from Summerland. Can I assume you’ve ridden behind the 3716??
I keep trying to convince my wife we should take a Canadian vacation…
Patrick Underwood said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Patrick Underwood said:
“Newfie Bullet”
The nickname is highly ironic.
Well, there are plenty of Newfie jokes up here, but the Newfies also have a good sense of humour, the nickname for the meandering train line was very apt. Legend has it that there were many extra, unscheduled stops for moose and other wild life along the line.
Hmmm… you’re not very far from Summerland. Can I assume you’ve ridden behind the 3716??
I keep trying to convince my wife we should take a Canadian vacation…
Just up the Valley (relatively speaking)
Beautiful! Nice videography too.
Looks just like Colorado. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised about that…
I’d bet serious money the banjo player doubles as Santa Claus during the Christmas runs.
Thank you!
Santa Claus is most likely played by one of my operating buddies who has a naturally white beard and the build that will require minimum padding for the role. Have to ask him at the next operating session.
I agree on the profusion of Colorado NG being available with very little every day steam or very much eastern narrow gauge. An affordable to the masses EBT Mikado would do wonders or the USRA 0-6-0 that LGB was working on when it went belly up. Marklin/LGB needs to finish that project! The D&RGW, RGS or the tourist lines they are now dont do it for me. For the Colorado scene I prefer the C&S. Wish more of that line was preserved and operational with proper C&S moguls and consolidations. That line with its scenic route along Clear Creek, smaller locomotives lends itself to G scale so much better IMHO than the D&RGW with its much larger engines. Not all of us have the room for R3 and larger curves to handle K series, now we cant hardly get the C16’s that Aristo made, atleast those could handle R1 and R2 curves. The C19 from bman also needs huge curves to operate well and look right. No wonder LGB sold so many moguls, even though it balks a bit on R1, they deal with it. Piko has a winner with the little camelback, now they need to offer it with proper valve motion, not partial like it is now. For that kind of outlay in cash, I want full valve motion, even LGB got that part right and even upgraded the Stainz and Harz engines to more prototypical set ups over the years. Mike
Mike I model eastern narrow gauge. I agree, from my perspective the D&RG is a bit over represented. I would like more generic narrow gauge type locomotives. I have purchased enough Heartland locomotive to bash the entire P&CS roster. Now I just need a carload of detail parts, some better pictures to work from, and a whole lot of free time.
Ok, stupid question here. Would the Piko Camelback be bashable into a respectable narrow gauge locomotive? Or would it be a fantasy, never existed, type of bash?
What do you mean? It comes bashed right from the factory! 
Yes. Well. Uh, um, ah…
alright
Hi Mike Toney:
" now we cant hardly get the C16’s that Aristo made, atleast those could handle R1 and R2 curves. "
The latest version is available at Train World as they received another shipment. Best hurry and buy these now if you want one.
Folks will not like my opinion but 1:24 narrow gauge was great as a broad marketplace product. The 1:20.3 is too limited a market. Bachmann should have stayed with 1:22.5 for a broad customer market. Bachmann could still have produced 1:20.3 but they blew it when they abandoned any future 1:22.5 product.
The 1:20.3 AMS passenger cars are simply too large for a large segment of the largescale market. I was going to buy a consist until I realised just how large these cars are. Beautiful, great detail but simply too large for me.
The 1:24 and 1:22.5 freight cars worked out perfect for 1:29 as well. These products just worked so well together for a broad segment of the consumer marketplace.
Bachmann should have continued with 1:22.5 product as well as 1:20.3 product.
Just my opinion which will not be popular.
In any event, Mike place an order with Train World now if you want some Aristo C-16 locos with metal ( not plastic ) side rods.
Norman
The Piko camelback looks very much like Reading B8a class as shown in the photo and plan from Klambake’s Locomotive Cyclopedia As can be seen the engines were originally built with slide valves, and Stephenson valve gear as well as a slope back tender and later up dated to piston valves and Walschearts valve gear**.** I’m not sure as I haven’t disassembled mine yet, how hard it would be to replace the cylinders. The Piko locomotive itself actually looks reasonably close detail wise and would make a good starting point if a more accurate model is desired, the tender however would require a bit more work and some different trucks. I won’t get around to tinkering with mine till winter, not sure till then exactly what it’s fate will be.
Norman Bourgault said:
Bachmann should have continued with 1:22.5 product as well as 1:20.3 product.
Just my opinion which will not be popular.
Norman
Not really, I also hold that viewpoint, and I don’t think I’m alone.
But Bmann (aside from whats already in production) has been moving away from any new mass market models and focusing all new production towards smaller batch shorter production run specialties (1/20 models like the K29 C19 and the 1/29 trolley) ? next, I dunno but I will guarantee that it probably won’t be brand new for 1/22.5.
Vic
You are not alone!
Tom