Exactly Joe, well put. I am getting tired of all the pissing, moaning and trashing as well.
Gavin Smart said:
I was just wondering how you think the MTH locos pair up size-wise alongside Aristo and USA Trains? It’s just because I’ve never seen any MTH in the flesh as its a bit more rare over here in the UK. I particularly love the look of the SP black widow F7s as I missed out on USA Trains F units the first time! Does anyone know how the two Fs compare alongside each other? The USA F3 and the MTH F7? Thanks folks, Kind regards, Gavin
Gavin
I’m aware of your RR and what you model (very nice BTW) However I don’t think you would be happy with the 1:32 MTH . It is very nice stuff IMO however it will not blend in well with your 1:29 stuff unless you make a stand alone train of MTH.
Hope that answers your question
Joe.
Stop.
You asked what I wanted.
I told you.
1:29
Small Steamer, example given
Small Diesel, example given
Large Diesel, example given
You apparently do not like my choices. That’s ok.
Don’t ask the question if you are not prepared to live with the answer.
The only bashing, pissing and moaning has been done by you.
Please stop!
OK I’ll remove the small steamer statement, and I apologize to you. The Lionel taking down statement is what started it by my recollection.
The rest was aimed at the other’s not you!
Steve Featherkile said:
Can anybody 'splain to me why they chose a Dash-8? I mean, really!
I bought ten! I originally thought this was a joke or light hearted comment. I guess I was wrong, AGAIN.
Joe Paonessa said:
OK I’ll remove the small steamer statement, and I apologize to you. The Lionel taking down statement is what started it by my recollection.
The rest was aimed at the other’s not you!
Ah, targeted bashing. Good! Now we’ve got it saved for posterity.
Thanks.
TOC
Joe Paonessa said:
Steve Featherkile said:
Can anybody 'splain to me why they chose a Dash-8? I mean, really!
I bought ten! I originally thought this was a joke or light hearted comment. I guess I was wrong, AGAIN.
You are, again. It was a light hearted attempt at a semi-serious question. Its always been something that has made me go 'Huh, I wonder why they did that?" I’ve wondered since they introduced it in 0 gauge. It has never been something I’ve lost any sleep over, though.
David,
Thanks for the kind words. That’s as I suspected but thanks anyway for the clarification. It’s a shame as I do love the look and sound of the MTH stuff!
All the best,
Gavin
Steve Featherkile said:
Can anybody 'splain to me why they chose a Dash-8? I mean, really!
As far as the reason the Dash-8 is being produced is actually quite appropriate. Yes, Steve you are correct in that it was only produced for about 5 years. And to be clear The MTH model is a Dash 8 40CW. This is the wide cab model. The Dash 8 series of locomotives represent a leap in locomotive technology. It is also the beginning of the domination of the locomotive market by GE. Up until this point the EMD SD40 series was the workhorse loco of choice.
GE and EMD both tried to introduce new platforms to replace the SD40, with the Dash 7 series (GE) and 50 and 60 series (EMD), but none were as successful as their companies hoped. When GE introduced the Dash 8 it started a locomotive revolution that we are still seeing today. The Dash 8 brought a whole lot of new technologies or started ideas that designers capitalized on. This is probably why the Dash 8 never lasted as long as the SD40 it replaced. As new technologies advanced the Dash 9 was born.
Its a funny thing about the name, Dash 8-40C. The reason GE chose to use this nomenclature is because of the Dash 7 series. The C30-7 was a fairly successful locomotive and was referred to as a Dash 7. To capitalize on that, GE used the Dash 8. However, most of the time these days, railroads refer to the locomotives by the old way which is C40-8.
Hope that helps with your question.
Jake Smith said:
Steve Featherkile said:
Can anybody 'splain to me why they chose a Dash-8? I mean, really!
As far as the reason the Dash-8 is being produced is actually quite appropriate. Yes, Steve you are correct in that it was only produced for about 5 years. And to be clear The MTH model is a Dash 8 40CW. This is the wide cab model. The Dash 8 series of locomotives represent a leap in locomotive technology. It is also the beginning of the domination of the locomotive market by GE. Up until this point the EMD SD40 series was the workhorse loco of choice.
GE and EMD both tried to introduce new platforms to replace the SD40, with the Dash 7 series (GE) and 50 and 60 series (EMD), but none were as successful as their companies hoped. When GE introduced the Dash 8 it started a locomotive revolution that we are still seeing today. The Dash 8 brought a whole lot of new technologies or started ideas that designers capitalized on. This is probably why the Dash 8 never lasted as long as the SD40 it replaced. As new technologies advanced the Dash 9 was born.
Its a funny thing about the name, Dash 8-40C. The reason GE chose to use this nomenclature is because of the Dash 7 series. The C30-7 was a fairly successful locomotive and was referred to as a Dash 7. To capitalize on that, GE used the Dash 8. However, most of the time these days, railroads refer to the locomotives by the old way which is C40-8.
Hope that helps with your question.
MTH released a narrow nose version shortly after. I bet they capitalized on the same tooling used for the wide cab. They also released non powered versions and even considered total engines without their boards. After much public complaining and bashing, that idea was dropped. No, I don’t have all the facts, or any inside information, just watching some history.
Whatever plans they had for more modern diesel releases, I don’t know of. They did stop. I just hope it starts up again.
So the new MTH add in the October issue of GR shows that the One-gauge catalog is now on-line.
Anyone know where?
So the first out of the gate will be the F7’s in November?
I see that the A, the B and an AA set will ship. I thought there was some talk about the B unit?
Or is it that they won’t be selling an AB set?
Greg
Joe Paonessa said:
and here it is!
http://mthtrains.com/content/catalogs
pick the top one for G gauge…
That wasn’t there yesterday! 
I am so going to need a bigger train budget…
Dammit… I wasn’t a fan of the Dash 8, but now that they have it with the narrow nose I have to have it!
Well…yawn!
I hate to say this but if someone gave me a couple grand but stipulated I had to spend it all on MTH products, believe me I could…on the TINPLATE stuff, frankly the large scale stuff leaves me as cold as a Boston winter. The retro tin stuff is IMHO the coolest stuff on the planet, but I mean seriously, if you look at what MTH O gets verses G, forget it, we’re the orange haired stepchild no one wants to take care for. Yet we get ONE NEW THING and we all get giddy, meanwhile the O guys are getting some seriously cool shtuff while all we get is a tidbit.
Don’t get me wrong, I have the same gripe against Bachmann and On30, the On30 guys get all sorts of cool models, we get a Trolley - whoop de-do. Sad to say the most interesting thing I’ve seen this last year was Piko’s TEE set. Thats just plan cool, you think at the very least MTH could do the Turbotrain in LS, or a LS version of their 0-8-0 instead of that IDIOTIC Triplex, Errgh!
Seriously - read the LS catalog and compare to the plethora of whats available in the O catalog, 38 pages vs 192 pages, its quite pathetic. I can clearly understand why some might reconsider doing O, inside or outdoors, vs large scale.
Sometimes I think I should just horde away a few more Lil Haulers before they too go away, and not even bother looking at mfr catalogs anymore. I get depressed.