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Narrow Gauge ET&WNC style Coach Project

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One of the advantages of having the entire sheet is that I also get the plugs. I used this and some scrap styrene to make a jig
(I can see I'm going to have fun pointing out things as you go along... ;-)

I used two plugs glued together to align the trim in the window opening on EBT #16 - simpler than adding styrene. (It also works on Alan’s batten side cuts, like EBT #29.)

Time to think about the interior BEFORE I glue the walls in place. :wink: It’s much easier to measure things on the flat floor. I bought a bunch of walkover seats back in 2006, thinking our project would be done soon. Now, 6 years later and more than a few custom designers later, I finally get to use them. :o These are from Classic Reflections, and are NOT part of the kit. http://www.classicreflections.biz/Walkover%20seats.htm Assembly is very straight forward. Each chair comes on two different sheets of laser cut styrene.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0163.JPG)

The problem is that both sides are covered with self-adhesive paper and this must be peeled off once you cut the parts out. Not hard, but it does take some time.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0164.JPG)

I only assemble up to a point - I will go ahead and paint these.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0165.JPG)

I first need to put in some .060" rod to allow the seat back to flip over. However, when I looked through my stock, I saw that all I had was 1/16" - which is about .0625". So, I drilled it out and glued them in place. I decided on 11 rows of seats - meaning I need 22 total. It takes me about 10 minutes per seat to get to this point. :frowning: Of course this doesn’t come out quite even with 6 windows. :wink: But, it does allow for about 2 feet between seats, and seems about right. :o

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0169.JPG)

I’m still thinking about the best way to glue these in place AND also paint the floor…

Bruce: See if you can find Varibond dye. Its a dye used in the automotive restoration industry to color ABS interior parts.

coming along nicely, bruce… very detailed work on the seats…

Bob McCown said:
Bruce: See if you can find Varibond dye. Its a dye used in the automotive restoration industry to color ABS interior parts.
Actually I think you can get that through Napa
Bruce Chandler said:
I bought a bunch of walkover seats back in 2006, thinking our project would be done soon. Now, 6 years later and more than a few custom designers later, I finally get to use them. :o

These are from Classic Reflections, and are NOT part of the kit. http://www.classicreflections.biz/Walkover%20seats.htm


$50 later…

These look a lot better once painted.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0170.JPG)

Basic chair is painted with Krylon gloss black. I used Krylon “Make it Suede” for the cushions. It gives a nice textured and very flat finish.

Really nice seats, Bruce.

Accucraft sells their seats individually for a $$ high price.

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I used Krylon "Make it Suede" for the cushions
I had a bunch of seats left over from my MLS coach project (which became #20, the Business Car with no regular seats.) I used them odd places (I forget where) with some 'sandstone' textured paint, which happened to be sand colored but can be sprayed a different color over the texture. I'll bet its the same teture!

The PDF for the MLS seats is available, so Alan could laser cut some very easily.

Those look great! Like the texture.

Ah - I remember. The seats went into my coach #17, which was an old Don Winter kit. I ordered a sheet of seats from one of the MLS coach suppliers.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/petert/_forumfiles/img_0807-seat.jpg)

As I mentioned, the seat part drawing PDF is available if anyone wants to get Alan to cut some seats.

Pete

I believe I have that drawing.

When we get to the triple-combine, I will be doing a different style walk over seat. Bruce has supplied me with some photos. Will also be drawing up a full interior option for the RPO section. Should be fun.

Alan

Still working on the underframe. Here are the pieces to the battery box.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0220.JPG)

Alan is also including an assortment of hinge styles - I decided to go with these.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0226.JPG)

Each step consists of 8 pieces - 4 steps, 2 sides, and 2 skins.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0227.JPG)

Notice that he has etched a cross hatch on to each step, and “Watch your Step” on to one of the vertical pieces. :slight_smile: My underframe looks a lot better with a coat of paint on it.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0231.JPG)

The steps are glued to align with a slot in the floor - this will hold a skin piece later.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0232.JPG)

I ended up cutting a bunch of small tape pieces and using them to mark where the chairs will be glued to the floor. The edges of the floor were painted, then the tape scraped up.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0233.JPG)

I printed some carpet images on my Papilio self-adhesive vinyl and put them in place on the floor.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0234.JPG)

Then each chair was glued in place.

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In this picture the bathroom walls have been glued together and painted, but are not yet glued to the floor. A scribed skin piece will go on the exterior wall - it has tabs to fit in the slots by the steps.

excellent… :slight_smile:

Nice !
Bruce, do you print the vinyl with an ink-jet ?
Ralph

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0234.JPG)

…:)…

Real nice.

Ralph Berg said:
Nice ! Bruce, do you print the vinyl with an ink-jet ? Ralph
Yes I do, Ralph. It's an old one, but seems to work fine; I haven't gone for the color laser yet. I've also had very good luck with having the local Staples print color stuff.

Looking real good Bruce.

I intercepted a color laser on it’s way to the dumpster at work a few months back. It prints, but has some paper path issues I need to solve (jams often). I grabbed it with the thought of printing modeling items. I need to research the printable vinyls. I can get large scraps from work but I’m concerned the heat process from the laser printer would melt the vinyl.

My first color laser was a little over $400. It was huge & heavy, but had auto duplex printing.
It jammed one day printing waterslide decals and burned up the heated drum, or whatever they call it.

The Samsung color laser I have now I bought on sale before Christmas for $99. Much more compact and has saved me a small fortune in ink costs.
Buy.com currently has a super deal on a Konica color laser. I have no experience with the brand, but it’s hard to pass up at this price. :wink:
Shipping was free a few days ago, but it looks like that part of the offer may have been dropped :frowning: Darn, I knew I should have ordered it when I got the email.
Ralph

http://www.buy.com/prod/konica-minolta-magicolor-1600w-color-laser-printer/210635693.html

Jon Radder said:
I can get large scraps from work but I'm concerned the heat process from the laser printer would melt the vinyl.
That's what I was wondering too. Would it work printing signs on vinyl without melting the stuff?

Plus would it fade like ink jet ink does?