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Narrow Gauge ET&WNC style Coach Project

Modeling
#21

Bob,
Nope, I clamp it first and then apply the glue - even the Testor’s is thin enough to do the capillary thing.

BTW, I’m only applying glue to the clamped section as the unclamped side has gaps. So, I wait for it to dry, then move on to another section.

I do NOT glue the ends of the cross member pieces as there are two strips that have to be glued along the edge. When I put that in, I’ll glue them.

#22

And here’s that strip that goes along each side. It’s notched at each end and fits into a notch with the smallest cross member to form a corner. I clamp it first to make sure it is aligned with the edge. It butts up against the other cross members.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0040.JPG)

After I check alignment, I glue it in place. A better shot of the corner, clamped in place. You can also see my acrylic truck mounting piece- remember you will get something different.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0043.JPG)

#23
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My #18 blade hasn't arrived yet, but I'll sure be glad when it does. It's very easy to snap those #11 while trying to cut out these pieces. They are only held in by a small bridge, but the plastic is quite thick.
Bruce,

Nice looking kit. When I did the EBT coaches with Alan, I used a chisel blade in my Exacto #5 handle to cut the bridge/tabs from the top. P.S. You still need to sand them to make them dissappear into the edge of the piece if it is visible.

P.P.S. I think I will have a pair of Accucraft coach trucks available - I plan to swap the ones on EBT #29 for Bachmann coach trucks from a “kit” that cost me $25. Anyone need some?

#24
Pete Thornton said:
Bruce,

Nice looking kit. When I did the EBT coaches with Alan, I used a chisel blade in my Exacto #5 handle to cut the bridge/tabs from the top. P.S. You still need to sand them to make them dissappear into the edge of the piece if it is visible.

P.P.S. I think I will have a pair of Accucraft coach trucks available - I plan to swap the ones on EBT #29 for Bachmann coach trucks from a “kit” that cost me $25. Anyone need some?


I tried the local shops for the chisel blade, but no success. It will probably come after I’m done. :wink:

Too bad I didn’t know about the trucks - I bought two pair from Phil Dippel when this project got underway. There WILL be the ET&WNC triple combine in my future. :smiley:

#25
Pete Thornton said:
P.P.S. I think I will have a pair of Accucraft coach trucks available - I plan to swap the ones on EBT #29 for Bachmann coach trucks from a "kit" that cost me $25. Anyone need some?
Pete,

I have a real need for these…I will try to PM you.

Mark

#26

Bruce,

I’m probably blind and didn’t see it…What is the length of this beastie?

#27

I measure, from the drawings, the car body to be a bit over 765 mm or 30+ inches.

alan
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#28

As we go along, Alan and I are discussing changes that will be made to the kit to make it easier to assemble. A perfect example is the truck mounting piece. While I fabricated a part to handle it, your kit will have a slotted piece that will fit on to some tabs on the center sill.

The use will cut a hole in this piece to hold a binding post that can be used to mount the trucks. Since we’re not sure what trucks you might use, the hole cannot be pre-cut.

Also, a new generator platform that will be flush with the sides of the center sill - the current one is a bit too wide. It’s easy enough to cut to size, but might as well make it perfect. :wink:

#29
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I will have a pair of Accucraft coach trucks available
I probably spoke a bit optimistically - the trucks will be available when the project pops to the top of the stack. I plan to repaint #29 in passenger green and then swap the trucks. At the moment, it looks like this time next year - after I finish 2 Hartford hoppers and sundry other projects.
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I tried the local shops for the chisel blade, but no success. It will probably come after I'm done
I think mine came from Micromark. #18 blades and a #5 handle. (I actually got them in a box of Exacto chisels and misc blades, which included the handle.) Around this time, I take the catalog and start marking pages with tools I would like, and then I give it to the wife, who gets one of the kids to order them for Xmas for me!

There are some .PDFs on my G.A.L. page on ebt-in-fn3.info but they are more oriented around how to take an accucraft coach apart and put it back together with new sides!
P.S. Alan recommends sanding the plastic sheets first to get rid of the laser ‘lip’ on the cuts - I do too. It is messy - I used 400 grit emery paper wet in the sink.

#30

Finally got back on track. I had some detail parts left over so used them. But, the wood dowels are not great for modeling metal tanks. I had to seal them, then sand. Repeat several times to finally get a good finish. I didn’t plumb everything as it is not really noticeable, but I did want to fill the void.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0089.JPG)

#31

Nice detail… :slight_smile:

#32

What does he recommend using for the tanks? (If anything)

Lowes sells all kinds of different size copper and plastic tubing. Course I don’t know what the minimum lengths are that they’d sell it in. I’ve used 1/2" PVC for the air tanks on the tenders.

#33

Ken, there are no recommendations as these are NOT part of the kit. However, I have been VERY successful at getting PVC or styrene cylinders of various sizes from Plastruct.

#34

We’re using a window design very similar to my Parlor car. What this means is that the trim piece on the window has no way to align it. When I was talking with Alan, he suggested making a jig. One of the advantages of having the entire sheet is that I also get the plugs. I used this and some scrap styrene to make a jig.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0094.JPG)

I place this in the window opening and then lay the trim piece in place and apply some glue.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0095.JPG)

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0096.JPG)

The plug comes out and I have a nicely aligned trim piece.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0097.JPG)

BTW, my order from Hobbylinc arrived. Having the chisel blades makes a BIG difference than using the #11 blade; it’s much easier AND neater. Besides the #18, I also got the #17, which fits in a regular handle and is very nice for cutting the thin sheets.

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0098.JPG)

I also recommend the Tamiya Extra Thin cement - it has a tiny brush and really flows well for around the trim pieces.

#35

I took these pics to give you an idea about the size of this coach, when compared to the Bachmann or LGB coach…

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0101.JPG)

And a bit wider…

(http://www.jbrr.com/Pics/RollingStock/PassengerCars/CoachProject/IMG_0103.JPG)

50 foot coaches are not tiny. :o

#36

Trim jig is a good idea; and man that thing is huge!

#37

Bruce?? How big is this car compared to the Parlor car you built???

#38
Andy Clarke said:
Bruce?? How big is this car compared to the Parlor car you built????
It's the same length, Andy. Another BIG car! ;)
#39
Bruce Chandler said:
Andy Clarke said:
Bruce?? How big is this car compared to the Parlor car you built????
It's the same length, Andy. Another BIG car! ;)
Seems like it would make a great companion to run with your Parlor car.... :)
#40
Andy Clarke said:
Seems like it would make a great companion to run with your Parlor car.... :)
Yep, they will probably always run together. Once we get this one done, I hope to do the triple combine from ET&WNC - it's baggage, coach, and RPO. A bit shorter, but it too will run with the others.