After what I’ve read here, and elsewhere, I would assume they’ll soon be knocking on LSC’s door.
Also makes me wonder about LSOL and the coincidence of the timing.
For those of you who frequent MLS, I would keep an eye on the “Terms of Service” 
Ralph
I have read four of the fora since 2006 and posted on tem all. I used to read MLS regularly but drifted away over a while ago after a personal written attack and finding much acrimony by the same few posters. It seemed to spill over to this Forum in recent times but Bob soon restored civility and order. much to most peoples pleasure, in a very strong manner.
MLS is much better than it was as far as acrimony is concerned and like all fora there are places that interest and those that do not… As to its future and direction, time will tell. Love it or leave it: we have the choice.
Ralph Berg said:
I would keep an eye on the “Terms of Service”
Ralph
I’m very curious (and nervous) about this. VS seems to have a past history of claiming everything on their website as their own, and then suing other websites that the content is on. That makes things like build logs that are posted both here and there very dangerous. That’s a REALLY bad business model, and if it happens here, I’ll have no choice but to take LSC down. I dont have the money or desire to fight stupid lawsuits.
I tried to move all my stuff off of MLS to LSC, years ago. Hopefully that worked. Interesting time in the Large Scale World.
Hopefully it won’t break any of my posts here, but in light of what Bob posted I’ve just made the decision to delete all photos from the web (in my own webspace) that could have been used in MLS posts in the past. That will not affect anything posted here in the last three or for years except some possible references to old work.
Bob McCown said:
Ralph Berg said:
I would keep an eye on the “Terms of Service”
RalphI’m very curious (and nervous) about this. VS seems to have a past history of claiming everything on their website as their own, and then suing other websites that the content is on. That makes things like build logs that are posted both here and there very dangerous. That’s a REALLY bad business model, and if it happens here, I’ll have no choice but to take LSC down. I dont have the money or desire to fight stupid lawsuits.
OK. Call me naive. How can they claim ownership of something that is linked from another site?
I don’t store anything at MLS; I use my own web site storage to post pictures, or links from photos I find online. For instance, if I linked a picture of a tool from Amazon.com over to MLS, they’ll sue Amazon???
However, if this is the case, I’ll just change the organization of my own hosting web site so it will break links everywhere. Then somehow, if I can search on some keyword for directory structure, I can edit all my old posts and repair them. Or, maybe there’s some way to do this all at once, Bob?
From what I’ve been reading, its not links, but content.
Bruce, lets say you have a build log on MLS, and here. You keep them both updated by writing the post in an editor, the paste it into both sites. They claim that, since they ‘own’ things posted on sites they own, now I’m in violation of copyright.
Its incredibly chilling if true.
Much more than chilling. But, I wonder if they can do it retroactively?
Bruce Chandler said:
Much more than chilling. But, I wonder if they can do it retroactively?
they can - if shad sold the forum “with contents”.
No idea. Here’s the boilerplate Ive found on every VS-owned websit ive come across. #2 is a giant problem.
Member Submissions.
Definition of Member Submissions. [redacted] may now or in the future permit submissions in trail reports, tech articles, product reviews, blogging, etc. by you and other Members (“Member Submissions”), and the hosting, sharing and/or publishing of such Member Submissions. You understand that whether or not such Member Submissions are published, [redacted] does not guarantee any confidentiality with respect to any Member Submissions.
Ownership, Limited License Grants. VerticalScope Inc. owns all user generated content on [redacted].
Required Rights in Member Submissions. You shall be solely responsible for your own Member Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them.
Member Submissions Representations. In connection with Member Submissions, you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third-party proprietary rights, including privacy and publicity rights, unless you are the owner of such rights or have permission from their rightful owner to post the material and to grant [redacted] all of the license rights granted herein; (ii) publish falsehoods or misrepresentations that could damage [redacted] or any third party; (iii) submit material that is unlawful, obscene, defamatory, libelous, threatening, pornographic, harassing, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive or encourages conduct that would be considered a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, violate any law or is otherwise inappropriate; (iv) post advertisements or solicitations of business; or (v) impersonate another person.
Member Submissions Disclaimer. You understand that when using [redacted] you will be exposed to Member Submissions from a variety of sources, and that [redacted] is not responsible for the accuracy, usefulness, safety, or intellectual property rights of or relating to such Member Submissions. You further understand and acknowledge that you may be exposed to Member Submissions that are inaccurate, offensive, indecent or objectionable, and you agree to waive, and hereby do waive, any legal or equitable rights or remedies you have or may have against [redacted] with respect thereto, and agree to indemnify and hold [redacted], its owners/operators, affiliates, and/or licensors, harmless to the fullest extent allowed by law regarding all matters related to your use of [redacted]. [redacted] does not endorse any Member Submission or any opinion, recommendation or advice expressed therein, and [redacted] expressly disclaims any and all liability in connection with Member Submissions. If notified by a Member or a content owner of a Member Submission that allegedly does not conform to these Terms, [redacted] may investigate the allegation and determine in good faith and in its sole discretion whether to remove the Member Submission, which it reserves the right to do at any time. For clarity, [redacted] does not permit copyright infringing activities on [redacted].
Does anyone know how to delete completely your membership at MLS?
I won’t support this VS company in any way, shape or form.
Let us hope that none of the same comes true and/or has any side effects on this site. 
Way back in early 2003 - when I was a paying member (Gold membership) on MLS - I removed whatever needed moving from my space prior to asking for my money back.
PS And I stored whatever, including some interesting threads - for future reference. 
Bob McCown said:
From what I’ve been reading, its not links, but content.
Bruce, lets say you have a build log on MLS, and here. You keep them both updated by writing the post in an editor, the paste it into both sites. They claim that, since they ‘own’ things posted on sites they own, now I’m in violation of copyright.
Its incredibly chilling if true.
Bob if that is true then wouldn’t the other option would be to delete any contested threads from LSC, personally that for me would be very devastating considering I have posted building logs across 4 sites, abut it would be better than losing this site.
BTW those pictures are MINE, no one elses, and I have hard copies of all of them on my PC at home.
I’m beginning to think about double checking and recopying any stray pics that are currently hosted on MLS back to my PC, simply deleting them would destroy my building logs and so far I’m not ready to go there yet…I am in a “wait and see” mode. I hope this is all just jitters but you never know nowadays.
Bob,
I am like Vic and will take a wait and see attitude. However, it makes me hesitate to post any build logs on MLS. To be honest I havent posted any logs there in probably a year. However, to prevent any problems, I would more than willingly delete any logs there to prevent issues here.
Boy i hope this only would be new posts. right now terms of use says myLargescale.com does not claim ownership of the materials you provide to myLargescale.com. AS OF THIS DATE
Richard
Jake Smith said:
Bob,
I am like Vic and will take a wait and see attitude. However, it makes me hesitate to post any build logs on MLS. To be honest I havent posted any logs there in probably a year. However, to prevent any problems, I would more than willingly delete any logs there to prevent issues here.
If you find out how to delete stuff over there, let me know.
Your right Bob #2 is a big issue…
I consider a my building logs MY building logs and any pics or drawing supporting them MY PERSONAL PROPERTY. On the old MLS those pics were hosted there because it was a courtesy benefit of 1st class membership, now it remains to be seen how the new landlords will respond. Train forums tend to be very photo heavy, if any pics posted there are now subject to being “claimed” by the forum owners, thats going to have a massive chilling effect on any future building logs if you risk losing the rights to use your own photos on other sites. The only solution is to copyright your own pics prior to posting them, anywhere.
This is the same BS that keeps me off Fascistbook
Jake Smith said:
Bob,
I am like Vic and will take a wait and see attitude. However, it makes me hesitate to post any build logs on MLS. To be honest I havent posted any logs there in probably a year. However, to prevent any problems, I would more than willingly delete any logs there to prevent issues here.
Oh yea, its definitely a wait and see, but there is a history here we have to be aware of…
that is bitchy.
in number two they get ownership over the members content, in number three they push back all liabilities to the member.
Richard Beverly said:
Boy i hope this only would be new posts. right now terms of use says myLargescale.com does not claim ownership of the materials you provide to myLargescale.com. AS OF THIS DATE
Richard
If I would be a member over there, with storage space and all the rest, it would chose one of two options
a) add a prominent copyright notice to any and all pictures stored there
or
b) remove all content from the storage space (copy to your own space on your 'puter!) then advise the new owners to annul your membership effective immediately.
Your attitude, disposition, resolve may vary!