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#61

Bruce Chandler said:

Jake Smith said:

Bob,

I am like Vic and will take a wait and see attitude. However, it makes me hesitate to post any build logs on MLS. To be honest I havent posted any logs there in probably a year. However, to prevent any problems, I would more than willingly delete any logs there to prevent issues here.

If you find out how to delete stuff over there, let me know.

You cannot delete threads, only the Mods can do that, but you can delete your photos from the 1st class storage area. The building log would remain but without any pics it would be pretty much useless.

I have over 82MB of pics stored there if push comes to shove over ownership I’d have no choice but to delete photos from my storage but that also raises a question, all my pics are there as part of my 1st class membership, if I didn’t renew wouldn’t they be legally required to delete my storage space as part of my agreement, in essence deleting all my pictures in the process?

As I said that would be a devastating thing for me. I would probably just abandon all my old threads and start anew, but that would be a massive PITA to do.

#62

Yes…however #4 they way I understand it… anyone who has done a “Kitbash” and used commercially available copyrighted/third party materials and posted a build log on their site would be breaking the terms of service. Now scrathbuilt stuff is completely different. Man that’s a fine line.

I agree with Vic on the other option of deleting contested material here if it comes to that?

Has anyone read the terms of service on the other sites that you have posted on? Perhaps you may have agreed to sell your soul in those terms?

I don’t have that issue to deal with though.

#63

David Russell said:

Perhaps you may have agreed to sell your soul in those terms?

I don’t have that issue to deal with though.

what issue? selling your soul??

#64

I posted the “ownership” question on MLS. Let’s see what they say.

Later,

K

#65

Vic Smith said:

You cannot delete threads, only the Mods can do that, but you can delete your photos from the 1st class storage area. The building log would remain but without any pics it would be pretty much useless.

That’s my plan. Make any thread that exists over there (all would be in the currently unaccessable archives) broken by moving or deleting the linked photos.

So they still turn off editing capability after a few days? If not, you could always edit each post replacing the text with DELETED. Royal pain to do either way.

#66

Korm Kormsen said:

David Russell said:

Perhaps you may have agreed to sell your soul in those terms?

I don’t have that issue to deal with though.

what issue? selling your soul??

Ha ha ha!!! :slight_smile:

#67

are we talking build logs or the masterclass? shad has said he is keeping the rights to

the masterclass articles.

Richard

#68

Richard Beverly said:

are we talking build logs or the masterclass? shad has said he is keeping the rights to

the masterclass articles.

Richard

It seems to me that #2 gives them the “ownership” of every post you make. Again, I don’t know how you can enforce that retroactively. But, I don’t even play a lawyer on TV.

#69

Rooster, how do you interpret #4 as pertaining to kitbashed material as opposed to scratchbuilt?

As I read it, they’re talking about posting text/photos that are copyright from another source (plagiarism and/or copyright infringement), not posting a photo that you took of your Bachmann 2-8-0 being re-built. As long as you are the original author/creator of the material you post (words, drawings, photos), or have permission of the owner of that material to post it (or it’s in the public domain or covered under “Fair Use”) you would be okay.

Later,

K

#70

Kevin Strong said:

I posted the “ownership” question on MLS. Let’s see what they say.

Later,

K

Thanks. I’d love to be proven wrong, but their generic boilerplate ToS is troubling. Anyone looked at MLS’s lately to see if its changed?

#71

Jon you can not edit a post after just a few min.

Richard

#72

Yes Bob i looked just this am and still said that the poster owned there post.

Richard

#73

Richard Beverly said:

Yes Bob i looked just this am and still said that the poster owned there post.

Richard

Might want to save that as a screenshot…just in case.

#74

Thanks, Shad!

#75

Funny we don’t hear any of this type of talk on MLS. I wonder if the new owners are deleting any negative talk over their. I would think any materials that were posted before the take over you would be grandfathered in on the copyright crap. I would think they would have to then ask everyone permission for the content that was posted before. Is there anything about them actually suing and winning over something like this. Whenever you submit a photo to a magazine you have to sign something stating that they have permission to use your photo and that they then own that photo or post. Id like to know if there is any case law on this. Even the record companies don’t bother with copy right laws unless you are downloading etc… a large number of tracks.

#76

If you read up on reports dealing with upright colonoscopy you should find, as I did, how people who complained in various forums owned by these folks simply got bounced…as in banned, deleted, removed, even if paid life members, with no recourse.
So, you bring said discussions here, since LySOL is going away…

#77

Bruce I printed it out. I don’t know how to screenshot.

Shawn I know walleworld has given me a hard time when I have taken a cd to print pics,
that look like Disney pics. but I have taken them they still want to see the release.

Richard

Bruce i got it.

#78

Hmmmmmmmmmm. as I originally noted, The puttin get rancid now isn’t it…

The flock looks like it’s starting to flee…

#79

Well the Admin on MLS answered Kevins question. This was their response

[Admin: You own your content, by posting content on this site you have granted us the right to publish it the content you posted here. Meaning we are allowed to keep it on the site.

To be clear, if the content is created by there is no reason you should not be allowed to publish it anywhere else.]

Hmmmmmm That comment might be something to keep for future…

#80

From the horse’s mouth:

“You own your content, by posting content on this site you have granted us the right to publish it the content you posted here. Meaning we are allowed to keep it on the site.”

“To be clear, if the content is created by there is no reason you should not be allowed to publish it anywhere else.”

(Apologies for the duplicate to Shawn’s post; we were posting near the same time.)

Bottom line, though, our content is still ours, to do with as we please. They cannot keep us from publishing it elsewhere.

Later,

K