For what’s it worth “Ground Pin Up or Down”. I put the pin down, but that’s cause it sort of looks like a happy face (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)
well, we in the normal (220-230) world are “blessed” with this type of plugs as well, since we have computers.
(before we got only symmetric plugs)
where i install the asymmetric north american tipe of plugs, i put the thick ground-contact on top.
that makes it just less probable, that the plugs wriggle out on their own.
This makes me want to rewire my house and turn them all so the ground pin is up just to be different.
Devon Sinsley said:
David why is it that we learn so much from you because you have injured yourself.
Devon, because I have injured myself a lot by being less then brilliant. I guess that what age does, it teaches us things along the way, the hard way.
I did not realize I would cause such a stir with my electrical handy work…
Well next I painted the the metal sleeve with Kiltz and also the outlet at the top of the support pole. After it dried i camouflaged the sleave with the backdrop colors…
The reason vertical outlets are installed with the ground socket at the bottom is it helps hold the plug that is inserted in the outlet from falling out against the force of gravity. It’s not so noticeable with a new outlet, but as the tension on the blades lessens with wear, it becomes apparent. BTW, horizontal outlets get installed with the ground socket to the right ( looking at the outlet). That has to do with the rotation of the Earth (just kidding on that one (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)) . BTW, electrical installation codes are as Devon said “That’s the way it’s always been done” (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
Joe,
I ain’t buying the gravity argument. It is counter intuitive. In order for a plug to wiggle out of the outlet the top needs to move first and farther and pivots on the lower. The ground being bigger and heavier will resist this movement better if it were on top compared to the smaller lighter flat blades.
Damn it, now I have to turn some of my crappy old loose receptacles over to prove to myself I am right.(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
Boy talk about your sudden thread drift. Ha Tye bet you wished you hadn’t shown us your new outlets now.
Devon,
If you don’t believe it, Google it and find out! I’m sure you will be able to find the code.
Actually Joe I did google it and found arguments both ways. In fact one such link was offered here. Everything I read is that there is no concrete consensus on which is right or wrong. Every site I looked at says the NEC does not define it. There is actually quite a debate on the subject and no clear answer. Both arguments have there merits.
Check this link out where electrical engineers fight it out. Many spec them up.
http://www.mikeholt.com/technical.php?id=grounding/unformatted/9-23-99&type=u&title=rec
Personally I like them down. . . why? Because that’s the way we have always done it"
The best answer given for them to be down is because this is the way we have always done it and many things have been designed around that orientation, like certain cords or air fresheners. That is a very legitimate argument but does not stem from anything more than what has become an accepted practice, not what is mandated.
There must be a standard somewhere. The makers of outlet testers ALL put the instructions on the side that would be up when the the tester is inserted into an outlet that has the ground socket at the bottom.
The usual convention is with the Ground (Earth) in the lower position, except for half tap plugs, which are mounted with the Ground in the top position showing that the plug can be switched on/off in, typically, bedrooms for bedside lamps. This allows only that plug to be switched. All others in the room are on all the time.
Images of 3-prong ciricut testers (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)
Well, that pretty much sums it up … Except for those that will never agree with anything.
Amen to that! (Not trying to bring religion into the thread, that would be a no-no.) (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
Gentlemen…may we please return the focus to Ty’s beautiful indoor layout now?
While I was painting the pole I decided to paint the plain wood on the inside of the valance. Helps me no be so distracted by the change of colors…
Joe is there anything wrong with his Blue light?
Landrel Brown said:
While I was painting the pole I decided to paint the plain wood on the inside of the valance.
Ya know what would make interesting video, the above as, “While I was pole dancing I decided to paint …” (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)
Guess the Paramedics arriving could be interesting video too.
Oh, look, I need to go now, the dishwasher just finished.
Sean McGillicuddy said:
Joe is there anything wrong with his Blue light?
Sorry Sean, I’m not taking the bait! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)
Ok Now that we got through the electrical saga , I did get a little work done so far this weekend . My weekend starts on Friday because I am always off on Fridays. The classes I was to teach got postponed due to the sleet and snow event here in NC. On of the classes I am going to teach is on backdrop painting. My way anyway. So I decided that I should have some practice. So I had an area that has had very little attention and always seems to pick up a lot of clutter. Well I cleaned it all off and started. Once cleaned off I painted the wall with Kiltz II…
