Large Scale Central

My First Build

Modeling
#101

Here is the cab. Pretty much finished. Need to put on the front doors and and the mounts and then it will be time for paint. I leave slots for sliding in the clear plastic for after it is painted. Then you can slide the clear plastic in and tack in place. The doors will be made with working hinges on the front.

The front of the cab is separate from the rest of the cab and will be attached permanently so I can run my plumbing and stuff through it.

I am thinking of adding masking tape to the roof in layers to simulate tar paper. Has anyone done this. Recommendations or a better way?

#102

The cab roof would in all likelihood be tin or some other metal. Anything else would be a fire hazard from the cinders. I simulate this a few different ways. The first method is to use foil tape (sold for sealing air ducts–the “real” duct tape). I cut the tape into rectangles, and apply it on the roof with just a little overlap (1/16" or so) on the edges.

You can see it (barely) in this photo that compares my EBT #1 to my EBT #3. #1 has a “stock” flat roof. #3 has the tape. It definitely looks cooler. (Note to self: tape #1’s roof.)

The other method I use is to scribe a similar pattern in the backside of thin brass sheet. It’s hard to see in this photo, but but you can see ridges where I scribed the back then laminated the roof with the shim brass. This sheet of brass was chemically blackened, not painted. (The rust spot was painted on.)

Later,

K

#103

Kevin,

I really like the tape idea. seems easy enough, an looks great

thanks again.

#104

OK so the details take longer to accumulate enough to show off. but there has been a lot of work done.

Here is the backead beginning to get done. tri cocks, water glass, oil can and shelf, The gauges are from the ten wheeler with custom gauge faces on water slide paper. You can see the handles for the sander lever and the whistle as well as the bell handle. The Johnson Bar is from the ten wheeler.

Kevin Strong gave me the idea above for the metal foil roof to simulate tin. Came out pretty nice … Thanks Kevin

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Here is the back with cab on. New hand grabs and steps.

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Here s the side. The bar running from the Johnson bar to the stuff that makes the valve work The linkages to the steam chest. Sander plumbing, drain cocks on cylinders, pop offs on

steam chest

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And finally the front detail. Steps handrail and you can see the pop offs.

Thats it for now.

#105

I made a few extra gauge faces, I think I have like four or five extra. If someone ones one or two or all let me know I will mail them to you. I don’t like to print things unless can make a complete row and cut the paper evenly. So I kept three others for future projects and the rest I doubt I would ever use.

#106

Looks great! Atta Boy!

I hope somebody’s dress doesn’t fall off! Snap handles… heh heh

ps didya get a pinner?

John

#107

Yes sir I did get a pinner. So I am just waiting for go time.

#108

Devon, You should be very proud of such a fine job on your first time out to bat!

As an interesting side I was very surprised to discover in some research that I was doing on the EBT, that this loco, or perhaps its sister, was bought buy the EBT in 1892 and then sold again in 1915. Proving once again it’s a small world.

#109

Randy,
I am pretty proud of it, I usually am my toughest critic and I have learned a lot of things I will do different next time, but with that said I am pretty impressed. It has been due to all the help and suggestions here and on mls that have helped make it what it is.

As for this being the EBT, nope this isn’t the one but my avatar picture is. The #4 became the EBT #9. Funny thing is Kevin Strong and I are working to gather the parts to build this loco. He is going to do the EBT and I am going to do the CR&N

#110

Randy do you know who it was sold to and where it went. I am writing a book on the subject and would like to know where it went.

#111

Hey Devon, Seems it ended up on a line in Cuba. Below is a link to the page where I learned about all this. Unfortunately there isn’t much more detail than that on the final destination.

Link to Chris Coleman’s EBT site: http://www.spikesys.com/EBT/Loco/09.html

#112

Great build Devon.I think it’s going to take a little time to get used to the ‘Blue’ finish.

One suggestion would be to use brass shapes to make the cab step and pilot step hangers for a little more durability.

#113

Dave,

good suggestion on the step hangers. I was already a little worried about them and thinking on a dual brass L strap hanger. So that may happen after all. I was going to play it by ear and see how it goes but sticking off the way they do they are asking to get knocked off.

So I will just be proactive and take your advice and do it now.

As for blue finish that must just be my phone. It is painted with a plain old can of flat black primer and really is black. And this is just primer it will be sprayed again with steam power black and all the details touched up. And then there is weathering. So this is not by any means the final paint job.

#114

Awww. I was beginning to like that blue. :wink:

#115

Here is the latest. Switched to real camera and lo and behold its black. So all the plumbing is done. Basically the loco is done. I have to spray it steam power black and then retouch all the brass fittings. I will weather it after the tender is done. I will also have to put the coupler pocket on but wont do that until the tender s done. I need a wiring socket to attach the loco t the tender. So here is the pictures.

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So here is my rendition of an Eames injector. The close up sure brings out the flaws but at a distance this little gadget looks like the real thing.

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Backhead plumbing. This shows the Eames Brake Injector the Hydrostatic oiler blow off valve tri cocks and water glass.

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Fireman’s side

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Engineer’s side

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Blower valve smoke box

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Boiler feed injector.

#116

I forgot the crew. I am no sculptor.

The engineer

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And here is the fireman

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The engineer looks the best. The porportions on the fireman suck. Head is to big legs are to small and he is to big all around. And Hands. . . I cant do hands. They have giant hands.

#117

Great job Devon, A great build. Thanks for sharing.

#118

Nice work on all that plumbing! That is coming out very nice.

Oh I found 2 great pictures of #4 as #9 in a book I just got for Christmas. “Images or Rail East Broad Top Railroad” by Kenneth C. Springirth. In one of them it’s on it’s side after a derailment! Knowing Kevin he may have larger copies than the ones in the book.

#119

Randy Lehrian Jr. said:

Nice work on all that plumbing! That is coming out very nice.

Oh I found 2 great pictures of #4 as #9 in a book I just got for Christmas. “Images or Rail East Broad Top Railroad” by Kenneth C. Springirth. In one of them it’s on it’s side after a derailment! Knowing Kevin he may have larger copies than the ones in the book.

Yes I have that book as well. Of interest in that picture of the #9 the Eames brake actuator is now on the fireman’s side. In the builders photo as well as another photo I have of the #4 it is on the engineers side. At some point it was moved. I wonder how Kevin will model it, we shall have to see.

On a side note , If at ever you plan to scratch build that loco now would e the tie to at least get the parts. scale 48" drivers are not to be found so we are having the wheels and tires made. The wheels are going to be 3d printed and the tires are being machined by a guy near me. We are also looking to have steel frames laser cut. It will have roller bearings for the axels and bearing blocks that are fully sprung so the suspension will be fully equalized. we are using the Bachmann motor and gear box but all else will be custom made. So if you want we can put you on the order list. Wont be a cheap loco but will be fun to build.

#120

Thanks for the invite to the party Devon, but the period I’m modeling is about 8 or 9 years after it would have been sold. Also, if I do get the itch to build some of the older iron age locos, they will of course have to be live steam. Therefore a lot of the components you guys are working on wouldn’t work in my version. I am how ever already looking forward to the build thread on #4 !

By the way, what did you use (clay etc.) for you figures?