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Locomotive Work Cradle

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#41

todd whittier said:

Pictures?

Scroll back to Garys’ post on page 1

#42

Thanks David

#43

Thanks, couldn’t get tphotos to show up. Turns out problem on my end. Any pictures of the carrier?

#44

They are there on page one, some from me, and scroll down a bit for Dan’s…

try logging into this site with both http:// and https:// … if you don’t see pictures because of your system, why are you asking for pictures? Do you see ANY pictures on this site?

Greg

p.s. shut up rooster

#45

Greg I do see pictures of cradles, I thought the carrier might be box like. I see a ramp but was hoping to see if the carrier was like a storage box. Didn’t mean to hi-jack the thread. I’ve been looking for a box like carrier. When I read how good the work was I was hoping to see if anyone had any more info.

#46

I started the thread about cradles, the “carrier” sort of snuck in, and yes the carriers are like boxes that open up and most let you runt the train in and out.

I think we have all the info on the cradles, so hijack away! I’m sure some people have pictures of carriers, but be prepared for it costing a bit of money!

Greg

#47

Greg. Not afraid to spend for quality. Hobby money takes a little time to accumulate, so i value the models I have. Visiting other roads I need a good protective option. if Anyone has a picture of dans carrier if you could post a picture I’d be grateful.

#48

Todd, I’ll try to post pictures tomorrow. I have one for my C19 and it’s truly a work of art.

#49

Todd, here are some previous threads on the subject of engine carriers. Perhaps there’s something here for you

https://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/26050/new-loco-carrier/view/post_id/321876

https://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/21240/engine-carriers?page=1

https://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/23040/locomotive-carrier-recommendation-please/view/post_id/270516

Added some actual pictures -

https://rapdlp1006.wixsite.com/g-scale-carriers

#50

todd whittier said:

Anyone has a picture of dans carrier if you could post a picture I’d be grateful.

Todd,

I thought I had some close ups but currently I cannot find them. Dans carriers as Jim stated “are a true work of art”! The three in this picture (sorry for the distant pic)had black walnut handles and beautiful grain,joinery… true Amish grade (of there is a category for that)

Editing because that is Dan the man himself !

#51

https://www.facebook.com/dansenginecarriers/videos/2283559428577075/

I don’t know if you’ll be able to see this video. It’s on Dan’s Facebook page for Patterson Woodworking.

#52

I did find a picture of one of Dan’s locomotive cradles:

#53

Here is his link to a carrier …

https://www.facebook.com/dansenginecarriers/videos/2283559428577075/

I tried to post this (It’s the same link as Kens) but to no avail …

#54

Personally, I think they would work better, and do less parts damage, if the “V” was “deeper,” as opposed to 90 degrees. This would allow more room for center-mounted detail (e.g., horns, stacks, bells, etc.) to fit into rather than put pressure on them.

#55

Todd Brody said:

Personally, I think they would work better, and do less parts damage, if the “V” was “deeper,” as opposed to 90 degrees. This would allow more room for center-mounted detail (e.g., horns, stacks, bells, etc.) to fit into rather than put pressure on them.

Never broke anything in Dan’s cradle…but always broke something with my big hands and fingers :)! In fact, this is the prime reason I build in 1/8th scale now. Pretty hard to “break” BIG metal parts with my hands and fingers :).

I specifically bought Dan’s cradle to hold my Accucraft C19. Very heavy and larger because it is 1:20.3 scale NG. The depth of the “vee” is perfect for this large locomotive. Loads of very small and delicate brass fittings all over THAT engine. Never had an issue. BTW, the cradle Dan made for me was a custom length…26 inches. I believe the photo above is shorter than mine

#56

Sean McGillicuddy said:

Here is his link to a carrier …

https://www.facebook.com/dansenginecarriers/videos/2283559428577075/

I tried to post this (It’s the same link as Kens) but to no avail …

Thanks for posting this video. This is the video that inspired me to build my own oak carrier box for my “bashed” Connie. Put the grooves on the bottom of the carrier and Dan made the ramp to match. I would have had Dan make my carrier for me, but I have the tools and the oak. I also do a “little” woodworking as a hobby building my 1/8th scale rolling stock :).

#57

Sorry Todd, tried to add to my album, but noGo. So I added pictures to Dan’s posting on FB as comment.

#58

#59

Todd Brody said:

Personally, I think they would work better, and do less parts damage, if the “V” was “deeper,” as opposed to 90 degrees. This would allow more room for center-mounted detail (e.g., horns, stacks, bells, etc.) to fit into rather than put pressure on them.

Hmm, not sure I agree with the total picture. Clearly a deeper groove would leave clearance for center mounted detail, no question.

But now instead of giving even pressure across the sides and top, depending on how you put the loco in, you would be putting all the compressive force on the top edges of a loco.

So a hood unit like an F3, F7, FA, E8 would get the pressure on the top sides… but it would not be stable, the loco would want to go flat against one of the sides… so in this case I think the 90 degrees is superior.

Now look at something like a geep… because of the body being much narrower than the cab, you would put the force on the cab, and break off window visors. Also since the cab was supporting the loco, the ends could move up and down like a teeter totter, so working on motor blocks would be not nice, and a long hood would squeeze down into the “V” and probably bend the handrails… so in this case I think the 90 degrees is superior.

Now consider a steam loco… definitely a lot of detail on the top to be broken, in my case I hang that part out over the end of the cradle, a “V” shape would probably be advantageous here, as long as you did not bend railings along the boiler top. Again the cab could be an issue, but it is in either case… here I would give the vote to your “V” shape.

So, I guess no best solution… maybe make a cradle with a variable angle?

Greg

#60

Gary Armitstead said: BTW, the cradle Dan made for me was a custom length…26 inches. I believe the photo above is shorter than mine.

Gary,

I got an email from Dan today that gave the dimensions of his cradles…

“The cradle base is 16” x 24". The cradle is 26" long." (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)