Terry,
I was certainly hoping that Piko was not contemplating a ‘novelty’ range of advertiser products like a Coca-Cola Taurus or a Morton Salt BR218.
Tim Brien said:Tee hee.
Terry, I was certainly hoping that Piko was not contemplating a 'novelty' range of advertiser products like a Coca-Cola Taurus or a Morton Salt BR218.
A Timmy’s BR218 would go down a treat in some places I know…and a Reid’s Dairies red and white version even better.
tac
Ric Golding said:I doubt it or were there "Delton Ventilators" too? :/ :D
I wonder if all this huib bub and fodder would have been stated about Delton when they folded, if the internet would have been around?
I was around LS when Delton went under.
I cannot comment on what the circumstances were but I can tell you the good people of Delton, who had invested considerable sums of money in the venture, were not very impressed by the actions of Mr Schuster.
Especially when he reappeared down south with a quite substantial model train museum under his control.
So I guess that if the net had been around then, there would have certainly been some “venting”.
Mr Schuster - who is that guy? I don’t know the history…
The guy who developed Delton…and the Lionel Large Scale line.
Way back then, a lot of the Delton stuff was rather crude, and most of the freight and passenger line was modelled after a rather older style…around the US Civil War. They did produce a line of nice passenger equipment, but it came very late. The overall problem was that it was all around 1:24 scale. When trying to run it with the better detailed LGB stuff of the day; it looked crude and undersize. Delton as a company had a rather short life span.
The original Delton 4-4-0 was much like the existing Hartland one, using some of the same moulds. It was just about the first American style loco available in LS.
Delton did produce other locos in brass, at much higher prices and limited runs.
At the end of their production they produced the predessesor of the Aristo 2-8-0…the drive was not noted as being robust, although some are still rolling along to this day.
All in all, the passing of Delton was moarned by a few, in print, but being of a smaller scale and without chat rooms and forums was soon “hardly remembered”.
Aristo and Hartland picked up most of the moulds and made some improvements…for those that want 1/2" scale.
I may not have all of this quite correct, but a book has been produced covering the “Delton History”; so find one, and read for the facts.
So he got investors and ??. Didn’t market it well enough? Too toylike?
Steve,
check under the Articles heading on MLS forum on the story of Phil Jensen, who is associated with HLW. A brief history of Delton is noted as Phil did a lot of the design work for Delton. Very interesting reading.
John Bouck said:
Warren, With your permission, I hope.
Taking us back to page one…here’s a better picture of the whole locomotive. I think it will make a great locomotive and a kitbasher’s dream.
I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
And a blind center driver on a short wheelbase, it MUST be LGB, since it looks equipped to run on R1!
Regards, Greg
Since it is most likely using the Mogul motor block, what would you expect?? I see it as a nice locomotive dying to become a 2-6-2…
Personally, I like the chunky looking locomotives better than the stretched out ones. The big question is “Will the over all measurements fall withing a reasonable range for 1:29?”
If it is a mogul motor block…They can see real good.
They ain’t blind.
Nice pic, OP. I’ll get rid of my awful pic.
However, cab offa LGB 2-4-0 starter. To short.
If it was a 2-6-2 with a tender and bigger cab, I will take a second look at it for future purchase.
TOG
Looks like the cab from a Mikado to me.
put on a bigger cab and headlight, maybe a coal bunker and wow a nice little NG 0-6-0…of course I could just knock the pilot off my last Annie and have the same thing, almost…
I am loving the 0-6-0 that USA is doing, shame it’s SG 1:29 (for me anyways)
cale
Standard gauge 1:29 0-6-0.
What might this one be then?
Curmudgeon said:I'll bet it's those popular 'gummi-scale' models. Unfortunately, that scale hasn't been in enough demand to support a profitable business lately, but I've read that it's the best some model engineering and manufacturing shops can do. Of course, most of the rest of us use rulers and calculators and the more advanced manufacturing operations employ digital systems that are truly revolutionizing accurate scale model making.
Standard gauge 1:29 0-6-0. What might this one be then?
Warren (and others): thanks for posting the pix. Assuming the pictured collection of parts is a ‘proof-of-concept’ model, we can clearly see that it’s custom built from a combination of hand built prototypes (piping, undercarriage), newly developed molded parts (boiler, chassis) and previously available parts (cab, smokebox, motor block, . . .?). One could assume the delivered item might look somewhat different. I think LGBoA is to be applauded for making the effort to show the direction and status of their announced 0-6-0 project. It’s a significant undertaking with no guarantee of success.
We can’t really critique the new 0-6-0. I haven’t seen that LGBoA has declared a scale for their new line nor for this locomotive, so measurements are of no consequence. On the other hand, use of the Mogul motor block would seem to be a very good choice. I just looked inside my late 1980s Mogul and see a motor produced by a well known German motor manufacturer. I assume the gears are also German engineering and production. Hard to beat that combination and so far as i know, the Mogul motor block and chassis have solid long-term service reputations.
From what I’ve read, LGBoA plans to continue the “these are toys” tradition inherited from the old country. If true, I would recommend re-analyzing this scale / gauge / axis decision. I believe scale models attract more buyers. I can’t imagine anyone saying “. . . I’m not buying that because all three axes are built to the same scale . . .”
Happy RRing,
Jerry
Jerry,
:lol: :lol:
That’s all well and good, however if memory serves the last Moguls and the chassis that were sold separately came out of China, the motors had one or two quality control problems etc. etc.
Sooooo, we shall see if and when it hits the market.
I really like your comments about the ways to determine accurate dimensions for a model. Yep, makes you wonder how anyone could refer to the scale as suitable for “G”.
You know EPL had a very fine CAD-CAM system in place, but it still boils down to the GIGO principle and the infallible people who call the shots.
The closest simile is “I don’t know anything about art, but I sure know what I like” 
Warren Mumpower said:I'm with you. G Scale offers numerous Big Boys, GG-1s, and various other duplicates from several manufacturers at once, but there doesn't seem to be any 2-6-2s. But I also see the makings of a nice double 2-6-2 Garratt - something I've been hankering to build.
Since it is most likely using the Mogul motor block, what would you expect?? I see it as a nice locomotive dying to become a 2-6-2...:) Personally, I like the chunky looking locomotives better than the stretched out ones. The big question is "Will the over all measurements fall withing a reasonable range for 1:29?"
I just hope the price won’t be too outrageous.