mike omalley said:Why, just because you're more 'correct' than 'right'? :P
I apologize for getting too political--I'll back out of this thread
Fundamentalist Rebiblican Revisionists worry me too, and I’m a conservative.
mike omalley said:Mike, You need to get out more :lol: Extremists are scary..........whether political, religious or anti-religious. Moderates from all walks of life.......... generally get along ;) Ralph
I respect freedom of religion but generally find religious people kind of scary.
Ralph Berg said:You're right!
Mike, You need to get out more :lol:
mike omalley said:To my knowledge, of all the world's major religions only Islam not only allows but promotes a whole host of inhuman acts of punishment. Beheading, amputation, stoning, to name a few. It's one thing to consider women 'second class' but to stone a woman to death for adultery while slapping her male partner on the wrist is barbaric and beyond comprehension. This religion is firmly stuck in the middle ages. How can there be any hope for reconciliation between that belief system and that of the rest of the world?
As to Islam being a total system, that is surely true of Christians who homeschool their kids, read the Bible as a source of info on morality and law, insist on the ten commandments being placed in courthouses and public buildings, etc. As a non-religious person, I respect freedom of religion but generally find religious people kind of scary. Islam, Orthodox Judaism, and some forms of extremely conservative christianity preach that women are not equal to men. I don't agree with that, but I have to respect the right to hold the opinion.
Walter, Can I ask a question? Just how long did it take ‘the rest of the world’ to break the stranglehold of the Catholic Church’s influence in all things from cradle to grave? 1200 years? Longer? Have they entirely yet?
What about the Hindus? How does their fixed caste system that they still enforce mesh with your statements?
Intolerance is intolerance. Injustice is injustice. And so-called ‘Christians’ can be the most intolerant and unjust (and arrogant, and cruel, and violent, and corrupt, and selfish, and…) people on the face of this earth… Then they will quote some line and verse taken out of context to claim it’s “God’s will”… (Sounds a lot like what you just said about Islam, doesn’t it?) On top of that, what other ‘major religious group’ can claim that it’s immoral to abort an accidental pregnancy – And then have the gall to insist that it ‘isn’t THEIR responsibility’ to see that the SAME child gets adequate food, shelter, medical care and a decent education once it is born? There is a word for that, think about it.
Enlightened must be a relative term. But I’ve come to realize that logic can’t change many people’s minds when it comes to beliefs.
Rant mode off. Have a pleasant afternoon.
Interesting how people with political rants or anti-Christian bias are ready to end the discussion after they’ve had their say and then remind us this is a “train site” when the other side is heard from.
Excellent post Ken.
Now on that note (after making my statement) I will withdraw from this discussion and remind everyone “this is a train site” so you shouldn’t say anything further. 
What I find interesting is people who claim Islam is just another religion. From what I’ve read about the 1930’s the same kinds of people were claiming National Socialism was just another political party…
Ooooooooops, sorry Richard, lost my head…
Richard, I’m not anti-Christian… I’m simply anti-hypocrite. Unless all Christians are hypocrites (much like ALL muslims support terrorists?) there is quite a LARGE difference. My contentions on behavior vs. professed beliefs are facts. Look at the Northern Ireland of just 20 years ago. Look at the ethnic fighting in Eastern Europe of just a few years ago. Look at the Montana Militia. And maybe listen to EXACTLY what your average fundamentalist preacher says vs what JESUS actually said.
As for ‘Excellent’, Ken SAID they were ‘linked’ but I saw no, and have NEVER seen, any real proof offered from those who make those kind of claims - could we have some citations please? And not to another op-ed piece.
When someone says a group of Christian students can’t be allowed to pray on the front steps of the Supreme Court, that’s wrong. When someone vandalizes a synagogue, that’s wrong. When a housing board says a Christian group can’t meet in a private home for bible study, that’s wrong. When someone refuses to sell a house or give a job to someone simply because of their faith or skin color, that’s wrong. But when someone says that a group of Muslims can’t build a mosque, a house of worship, on their own legally purchased property, that is somehow right? Pull the other one, it has bells on.
Don’t believe everything you read. In fact, don’t believe about half of what you THINK.
Victor Smith said:
Vic, I have to admit that’s cute, perhaps…even brilliant! hehehe!
Richard Smith said:;)
Vic, I have to admit that's cute, perhaps.....even brilliant! hehehe!
Ken Brunt said:
What I find interesting is people who claim Islam is just another religion. From what I've read about the 1930's the same kinds of people were claiming National Socialism was just another political party.............;)Ooooooooops, sorry Richard, lost my head…
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You must have had a great time at Fred’s
Fired up and full of energy…or sumptin
Ralph
i knew it!
the kitty-pic was too much for Bob.
I’m not going to say I told you so, so I will not.
Nor will I.
tac
Supporter of the Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund
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knew it! the kitty-pic was too much for Bob.
Oops, sorry Bob, maybe I should have posted this instead
Politics and Religion, who shives a get??? Bob is right STOP and I don’t mean stop teasing our police!! back to trains!! Regal
…or maybe this. :lol:
Neither politics nor religion. Just a simple fundamental question. Do you believe that the rule of law as set forth in the US Constitution and Bill of Rights applies equally to all citizens, or don’t you?
