Large Scale Central

CVSRy Indoor Division Phase IV

I picked up another 4x8 roll of grass mat this week. I have invested more in the mat than the entire rest of the project (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)But I really like it much better than raw or even painted plywood. This piece I trimmed to fit before it went down and used a better quality double sided tape; one that has a backer so you can get the first side stuck down before exposing the second side. It only took an evening to get the mat finished and one more to put down the last of the track.

I had to modify a few of the special cut pieces, but all of the stock pieces went back together exactly as they were during the test and ended up in the center of the “BOX”. But don’t take my word for it; check out these pics!

Looking South from the Phase 2 bench work (light green grass). The old Main Line is the right hand track at the bottom that curves across the fold-up bridge. The Willow Hill Spur branches off the left and continues down to the corner where it curves West into South Willow Hill and terminates at BOX…

At the far left is an industrial track that serves the Willow Hill Depot, Willow Hill LCL Freight, McCown Freight Forwarding and Russell Poultry. Having 4 industries, plus the fact that each door at McCown is treated as a separate entity makes for a lot of switching and running around to service this track. To the right of the spur is Golding Square Box Co. and the far right track is the passing siding / run around.

A view from a little ways down the track. The cars spotted in the foreground are at Golding. In the corner under the water pipes is Chandler Quality Water. At right Shorty is holding in South Willow Hill…

A close up of Chandler Quality Water. The track at left is where Russell Poultry will be located, the two curving tracks are the spur main and passing siding. Shorty is still holding at SWIL…

An overview of South Willow Hill (SWIL) and the South Willow Tank. Wall station will winter here but move back outside in the spring. BOX is to the right and has just enough room clear of the SWIL switch for an engine and one car. Since my diesels require a HEP car they can’t switch SWIL. The short tail track requires numerous moves to work Chandler…

And finally, looking back North toward the depot…

I still have a few hours of construction work left to put the wall parts back together, then I can clean out those shelves and start moving stuff back in them. That is likely to take a while because I need to keep working in JMRI on the switching plan and testing the outcome (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

And finally, I’ve updated the schematic…

Notice the Gauntlet on the top two tracks. By curving the main to allow more space to the wall I created a pinch point. It is marked by the orange vinyl on the ties in the first picture. Cars on the industrial track will block the spur, and cars on the spur will block the industrial track. Just one more bit of operational interest!

John, that looks like it will be fun to operate. Lot of challenging possibilities. Interested to hear about your first operating session.

The gauntlet excites me! The rope hanging over Chandler needs to be hanging over top of the Gauntlet. Russells Poultry needs changed from 3 short cars to 3 Shorty cars. Looks good!

That rope. Came with the house. Previous owner was in construction in NYC and liked to liberate a lot of stuff, then left it all here because he was dead. I have absolutely no use for it, but hate to throw it away. There is one long one, maybe 25 ft, and a couple of 6 footers with loops woven in at each end. If anyone going to York can use them they are FREE.

Still trying to work out the routing and what industry takes what cars in JMRI to get some good movement. I am being summoned to help grocery shop so no trains this morning (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cry.gif)

Ran my first one-man op session on the completed track. The Willow Hill Turn originates at SWIL Tank and works everything North and East including the yards on the older section. When done, it runs West then South hitting all of them again. Including two calls for diesel assist when little Porter #3 couldn’t handle the tonnage, it took 1:10 for the run out and :35 for the run back or 1:45 total. Next time it may go a little faster as I leaned a few things, but all-in-all this change has added over an hour to an indoor session.

I forgot to save the manifest last night, but this one printed this morning is similar. Still got a few things to tweak, but this works. Keeping with my train symbol protocol, this train symbol should be changed to WILT…

(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Fantastic orders! Thanks for sharing.

I’m sure it ran flawlessly since there were no witnesses! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Hehehe!!! As noted in another thread (Lou’s Timesaver). Robust bumpers are required!!! I didn’t install them on the new section. During Saturday’s run I had the 45 Ton and Shorty the HEP car idling at Russell Poultry while drilling cars out of sight on the old layout with my Porter. I had the 45 Ton radio “switched off” using a Ch5 feature on the RailBoss. I wanted to see if my Shay also had the new board with this Ch5 on/of feature in it so I flipped the transmitter switch while I was running the Shay forgetting about 45 Tonner since it went quiet due to the sound board timing out.

I did hear it as it dropped to the ground off the end of the track. That sucker had the power on grass to push Chandler Track Two out of alignment before the block wall forced it to a stop! Fortunately no damage was done. Heavy Duty bumpers were installed on Sunday.

It wasn’t my fault…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Ken Brunt said:

It wasn’t my fault…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Same loco, different engineer (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-undecided.gif)

Daktah John said:

Ken Brunt said:

It wasn’t my fault…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Same loco, different engineer (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-undecided.gif)

It must have a good memory! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-yell.gif)

Sean McGillicuddy said:

It must have a good memory! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-yell.gif)

Yup. First year of TrainOps. My 45 Tonner with Ken at the controls punted the EOT brick and nearly went over the edge…

Ken will tell you it was the conductor’s fault for not calling out the free track remaining.

Following a system I began with early operations indoors; I labeled up the tracks and industries on the new expansion. This helps me remember what track is what and should make it a little easier if I ever have any guest operators. Having a supply of scrap vinyl in multiple colors; polystyrene and a label maker are handy.

First both tracks of the gauntlet section had the tie ends and clearance limits marked in yellow…

Next, small styrene track and industry markers were made up using a label tape machine…

Also note the reflective white markers on the tie ends. These mark the clearance points for movement on the adjoining track. And, as discussed above, some heavy duty bumping posts were constructed and installed…

That little hill in the foreground was an experiment with a scrap of grass mat using a heat gun to droop it over some crumpled paper and the eraser end of a pencil to poke it while hot.

I’ve broken my fair share of Aristo bumpers. This broken one was modified with a block of wood and some screws into the deck. Even Ken couldn’t push this one out of the way…

And, for Lou’s benefit, a construction detail shot of my simple bumper. A 3/4" thick block cut to fit flat on the ties and a piece cut off a wood paint stirrer glued and pinned as the vertical stop. A clearance hole in the center of the block and a deck screw to hold it all firmly in place…

I also used vinyl to mark the tie at the center of individual car spots. At McCown and all several other industries cars are spotted uncoupled with space between; centered on a door in the to-be-built freight house…

The center spot being used…

With that I declare the track portion of this project complete. There will be additions with some basic scenery and hopefully at least one flat to fulfill my entry in Mik 2017. It’s time now to turn back to tying up the loose ends from construction; cleaning up and moving the storage items back in so I can find the finished portion of the basement.

Daktah John said:

I’ve broken my fair share of Aristo bumpers. This broken one was modified with a block of wood and some screws into the deck. Even Ken couldn’t push this one out of the way…

Is that a challenge??? (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Don’t underestimate what Ken can accomplish. Just look at all he got done on his layout this year. Blowing out a bumper is only a 10 second job!

You’ve really got the some fine details covered now. Really looking good. But seems like you may be stalling on Mik’s build… (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Ken Brunt said:

Daktah John said:

I’ve broken my fair share of Aristo bumpers. This broken one was modified with a block of wood and some screws into the deck. Even Ken couldn’t push this one out of the way…

Is that a challenge??? (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

You are more than welcome to come up and try - with one of YOUR locos (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-money-mouth.gif)

Ken Brunt said:

Daktah John said:

I’ve broken my fair share of Aristo bumpers. This broken one was modified with a block of wood and some screws into the deck. Even Ken couldn’t push this one out of the way…

Is that a challenge??? (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Don’t accept that challenge. My granddaughter overcame a similar bumper on my layout. She was backing a train into position to spot some reefers at the fruit packing warehouse (shut up, Rooster), and forgot which was the all stop button and which was all back flank. The bumper failed, the caboose went sailing off the EOT, her father grabbed the locomotive and ground the wheels into the track, her brother grabbed the throttle away from her and made it right. I was watching from the deck, and there wasn’t much that I could do. Memories.

Randy Lehrian Jr. said: But seems like you may be stalling on Mik’s build… (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Yes and no. In order to design McCown Freight Forwarding I needed to determine where the car spots were going to work. It shrunk from my original thought of 5 doors to three due to that little jog in the track. In practice spotting a car there made coupling next to impossible. So a two new industries were born, the Willow Hill Coal Dock and the Willow Hill LCL Dock which are North of the jog and the gauntlet. I still can spot the same number of cars, just not all at one building.

Tonight I’ll get measurements and start on a dimensioned plan. Might post something in the build thread then. The more I look at pictures the more I think this should be a brick, or all stone structure, but I don’t have the budget to buy any brick sheet. I don’t think I am up to carving brick in PVC sheet (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)