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Build Log: The CVSRy's replica log cars

like these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-PCS-ELASTIC-ROLLER-BALLPOINT-PEN-USE-SPRINGS-/310216651327

Sure, except they cost almost as much as the trucks :o Iā€™ve got sources for promotional pens that have springs. Plenty enough for the 10 trucks I bought. I figure 2 pens/truck !

EDIT to add that those do look to be closer to the correct length then the ones from the pens I have.

The saw lives :slight_smile: With more careful measuring and some saw setup tools, I was successful at cutting the dado from the bunks so they will sit down over the sills. Once I had the set-up figured out, running a batch of bunks took only a few minutesā€¦

With bunks cut, all the mill work is complete, and assembly can begin. I started assembling frames using all the sills I had on handā€¦

Next the bunks were added. I only had enough bunks milled up for 6 carsā€¦

Here is a close-up of the final fit of the bunks to the sills. I think it came out greatā€¦

Next up is determining a method to gray up the wood. One method Iā€™ve read of is a dilute rust solution (steel wool dissolved in vinegar). I have a test frame or two I can experiment on. Pictures will follow when I decide on a method.

Jon Radder said:
The saw lives :)
LOL :)

Nice dado Jon. Cars are looking good

Jon Radder said:
Next up is determining a method to gray up the wood. One method I've read of is a dilute rust solution (steel wool dissolved in vinegar). I have a test frame or two I can experiment on. Pictures will follow when I decide on a method.
If you add baking soda to the vinegar it will age faster in large batches.

Jon,

i use diluted leather shoe dye in alcohol to turn my newly sawn wood grey. it is getting hard to find though. i think the steel wool in vinegar only makes a good rust solution.

Take another look at the first part (step 1 &2 ) of method 3?
http://www.the-ashpit.com/mik/weathering.html

Are they done yet Jon. :slight_smile:

I use India Ink in alcohol to gray the wood.

Thanks Bruce. Iā€™ve read lots of different recipes for stains. I have a few scraps simmering in some now. The best look I found was this made from various acrylic paints and water soluble black ink diluted with windshield washer fluidā€¦

WeatheredWood

You can find the recipes hereā€¦ http://homepage.mac.com/michael21/Stripwoodstains/stripwoodstains.html Iā€™ve been busy moping up from Mondayā€™s flooding, but some progress has been made: building more trucks, taking an inventory of on-hand cast detail parts and resurrecting some ā€œrust solutionā€ that has been brewing in a mayonnaise jar since 2006 :o

Jon I just use the acrylics found at craft stores. I do a heavy wash in black and then a wash in brown.

My ā€œrust solutionā€ basically did nothing. I think itā€™s too old because it has worked to turn wood an orange/brown for me in the past.

I like the simplicity of India Ink and Alcohol, especially since I have it on-hand. The last time I tried it was on my flat car and it was way too black. Iā€™ve since learned that my 50/50 mix was just too heavy on the ink side. So, some new experiments got under way this evening. Using some 50/50 mix I had on hand, I tried several dilutions for comparison. FYI I am using the Wiki definition of 24 drops = 1/4 teaspoon.

1 Drop of 50/50 in a teaspoon of 70% alcohol resulted in a super light staining - almost unnoticeable.

1 Drop of 50/50 in a 1/4 teaspoon of 70% alcohol resulted in a light gray staining - just noticeable.

2 Drops of 50/50 in a 1/4 teaspoon of 70% alcohol resulted in a medium gray staining - becoming easily noticeable. Darker on end grain.

3 Drops of 50/50 in a 1/4 teaspoon of 70% alcohol resulted in a silver-gray staining - This looks like it will be the one. Might use with the 2-Drop formula on the end grain.

Just for fun, I tried the 50/50 mix without further dilution. The result was a nice flat semi-transparent black stain.

I was going to post some pictures, but it got dark. Artificial light wonā€™t show colors anywhere near true enough.

Hey Jon, the 50/50 might look good where creosote might be used.

Bob C.

I have several pints of alcohol that I use. My dark one has 1 TBSP of ink. Another one has 1/2 TBSP of ink. Yet another has 1/4 TBSP.

Thanks Bruce - Iā€™m going to be mixing some up tonight. Obviously mixing by counting drops only works well for small quantities. Iā€™ve converted my formulas to ratios so I can use any unit of measure thatā€™s handy - like 1 Pint of ink into a gallon of alcohol :slight_smile: Iā€™d be mixing in that quantity to stain my entire house :smiley:

you might be better off to keep mixing in small batches. no two boards weathers exactly the same in the real world, so you WANT a lot of variation.

Very true Mik. For these cars I donā€™t have the patience to stain individual pieces. By dumb luck, the wood I cut varies in color somewhat so there will be a bit of variety to the color. Here is the color test. The ratio shown is in drops of 50/50 diluted ink/alcoholā€¦

I mixed up a 4 ounce batch of the ratio used for the group on the left and stained my best 4 frames. They havenā€™t completely dried yet, so itā€™s a bit early to tell, but I think they will be OK. They are significantly darker than the test sample. I checked my math so Iā€™m not sure why. Starting to think about hardware. Iā€™m not going to go nuts with detail - no log release levers or brake detail. I will hide where the draft gear should live with a ā€œmetalā€ cover bolted to the frame. Marilyn donated some Super Fine sterling plated chain that should paint up nice ($3.99 / 100 inches). Iā€™ve got plenty of NBW type castings that I can simulate some of the assembly hardware with. The one thing I havenā€™t come up with an idea for is a log stop on the end of the bunks. The Hoo-Hoo car has what looks like a cast spike - thatā€™s where Iā€™m leaningā€¦

Or the MichCal skeleton that Mik dug up has a rod-like holder and a spike - that would be OK tooā€¦

ozark has really nice bunks :stuck_out_tongue:

These ??

(http://www.ozarkminiatures.com/ProdImages/815-2.jpg)

Very nice but A Little to pricey for me at $12/car. This is a low budget operation. So far the only think that hasnā€™t come from stock or free is the Delton trucks you pointed me to.