Steve Featherkile wrote :
Is that a 1:20.3 4-4-0 running on 70mm track? That would be a wowser!
70mm track ???
Isn’t that the gauge for standard gauge in 1:20.3? 
The Jupiter was a standard gauge loco.
Making it in 1:32nd scale for 45 mm gauge would be correct. (Good market)
If it was going to be built in 1:20.3 (F) scale the correct gauge of track would be 70.64 mm. (No market)
If you make it in 1:20.3 scale to run on 45 mm gauge track then it would not be a proper scale model of the Jupiter. (Some market anyway). Better to select what was an actual 3’ narrow gauge loco. Which is what Bachmann have already done.
Likewise, in 1:22.5 scale or 1:24 scale, pick a narrow gauge prototype. Whatever you might make in those two scales, the modellers in 1:20.3 scale are unlikely to buy it.
As to collectors, they only collect proper scale models, not some bodged up, hyped up offerings. Whatever you do, do it right to maximise your market potential.
Did Hell freeze over? I didn’t get the memo. Tony and I agree about something… :lol: 
A model of Jupiter in 1:32 on 45 mm track would find a big market, no doubt. A model of Jupiter in any other scale would find limited, if any market.
But, ya gotta admit, a model of Jupiter in 1:20.3 on 70.64mm track would be … WOW!
As long as you agree with me then there is some hope after all. 
:lol:…
Quote:Tony, (and Xavier)
The Jupiter was a standard gauge loco
You did miss the 1/29th scale contingent. ALL their locos are the wrong scale/gauge, (but closer than English OO scale/gauge) - and none of them seem to care.
There are a lot more 1/29th scale railroads than 1/32nd in the US of A, so if that is the market, then a 1/29th model would make sense.
In addition, there are old-time coaches available in 1/29th and some freight cars that would work with an older-style loco.
Pete, Yes I did miss mentioning 1:29. IMHO, from an available market perspective, not worth worrying about really.
If Xavier made the kit in 1:29 I doubt it would sell at all. With no disrespect intended to the followers, 1:29’ers seem to be mostly of the RTR variety. Unlike 1:32, I don’t see too many 1:29 scale kits or detailing parts ever having been available at all.
Secondly, 1:32 modelers will buy only 1:32 scale equipment.
Ozark Miniatures is selling 1/29 and 1/32 so detail parts are starting to appear.
Quote:Tony, That sems to me like a great marketing opportunity, or just a chicken-and-egg situation. Look around this site and there are folk kit-bashing all sorts of 1/29th scale stuff - Amtrak Superliner coaches (a kit, sorta), modified locos, buildings, etc.
Unlike 1:32, I don't see too many 1:29 scale kits or detailing parts ever having been available at all
If you build it, they will come . .
The major problem with scratchbuilding 1/29th stuff, is that one has to make everything because there were no ““1/29th detail parts”” that had been available, without wrecking some other railroad car… When scratch-building 1/29th stuff, basically, everything was scratch built… In my years, I’ve seen a heck of a lot of 1/29th scale scratch-builders, making mostly everything from scratch or casting many parts…
Only within the past few years, have I seen “1/29th scale parts”" become available to use with scratch-building…
Some excellent modelers, I might add…
Hi,
after a whilewe already have prepared the prototype of the locomotive Jupiter, in 1:32 scale
Obviously that’s a prototype, which is necessary to make some changes, but I think it can be a very interesting model, and of course at a very competitive price.
I hope you like it.
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-012.jpeg)
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-005.jpeg)
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-007.jpeg)
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-009.jpeg)
Definitely not my cup of tea.
Nevertheless, good luck with the project. I hope it does well for you.
Ohhh pretty! I take it the UP 119 should be an easy followup
OOOHHHH!!! I think I just seen my paycheck loose a few bucks hehehe! A very nice model and very tempting even though I am a narrow guage person 
Victor Smith said:
Ohhh pretty! I take it the UP 119 should be an easy followup
Pretty loco, tho I’m not sure about that shade of blue!
P.S. “Leviathan” is a recent ‘new build’ locomotive copied from Jupiter.
I think the colour is pretty near…
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/CP_steam_loco.jpg/300px-CP_steam_loco.jpg)
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-012.jpeg)
Xavier Alvarez said:
I think the colour is pretty near…
Xavier,
I must agree that the current loco has a curious shade of blue paint. Nice model !
I believe there’s been quite a few color schemes used on the loco, and it’s current shade was researched by the National Parks Dept. (!?!) Thee’s some interesting infoat
http://discussion.cprr.net/2008/02/jupiter-119-paint-colors.html
Very nice model. Any chance of a slightly more scale wheel profile option?
Doug Arnold said:
Since we are talking about scales – I’m running 1/24 and building most everything. And I know I’m not alone!
I hear and agree most whole-heartedly. Whever said “F” scale was the most popular? Honestly I doubt those statistics very much indeed. I know several guys who have decided it’s too big for them, and MANY MANY who have invested a lot in 1:22 and are sticking with it rather than the new F thing. Tons of guys in 1:29. Whatever Xavier develops, he’d probably be wise to make something that we could all use. Much as I like the old Climax, I think a generic 4-4-0 chassis and mechanism that could be made or marketed with a choice of several different superstructures, (or none at all, or simple a stripped-down no frills one for the scratchbuilders) possibly stretching all the way back to the 1850’s, and all the way forward to the end of their useful life … I dunno - as recent as the 1930’s rebuild-on rebuilds, and was simple screwdriver construction would, I think, sell very well. I like the idea of Dick’s big motive power too; an eight-drivered loco based on similar principles might also sell very well, especially to the 1:29/1/32 crowd, and the rest of us might use the mechanism to build small 2-8-0’s or ???. As a general rule, smaller locos adapt better to most people’s curves, wouldn’t you agree? I occasionally hear the comment, “Only four-coupled locos will negotiate my curves.” But larger locos are certainly more interesting, I think. After all this typing, I still believe the 4-4-0 is the best way to go…
Ralph Berg said:
Pete Thornton said:
Guys, you’ll note Xavier mentioned “Jupiter” as a possible model.An 1860’s 4-4-0 would be great. Although, I’d like to see it 1/24th scale
You get my vote. See also my earlier comments about making something like this, but a generic mech., with interchangeable superstructures…