Large Scale Central

A new locomotive and wagon in kit

Ralph Berg said:
Shawn, The HLW 4-4-0 has the small drivers. The 1860’s 4-4-0’s had the large drivers, like Pete’s photos. Bachmann’s narrow gauge 1/20.3 4-4-0 is also a much later time period locomotive. Ralph

As of page 3 here, Pete, Shawn, Ralph, and I are all onto the 4-4-0. Agreed the driver size is an issue at various stages of thei wheel arrangement’s history, driver size is an issue, 'tho I wonder if you made an old one with large drivers in a smaller scale, could the mech be adapted for a more modern one with smaller wheels in a larger scale…

Alternaetly, how about an American with intermediate - size drivers? Or maybe a basic frame that could accommodate two (probably enough) or three (that’d be truly great) different driver sizes. You’d also have to get the pilot wheels sorted out one way or another, too, of course.

It’d be great to have an American that you could easily swap out the cowcatcher for steps and a coupler pocket up there, maybe the same casting could be used on the back of the tender.

You should also sell a stripped-down, basic black version, and a version with little or no superstructure at all. The 4-4-0 type was in operation for a hundred years, and wore many costumes. This is nice, but gaudy; something of an antique curiosity rather than a workaday engine. By far most of us model later periods where the American would still be in use, but in plainer dress. We would want to keep the mech and change all the upper boiler detail for a start. Actually, everything but the boiler… that is, pilot (or cowcatcher), cab, tender body…

Can you sell the mech and boiler and loco and tender wheelsets alone?

I would like to also see a 4-4-0 Locomotive that has the larger drivers. I am wanting to model the Civil War also ,but there is nothing available that looks like the 1860’s Loco’s used in the military railroads as far as wheel size. The above Jupiter prototype looks nice, but needs a little bit larger driver. Just my opinion…Travis

Travis Dague said:

I would like to also see a 4-4-0 Locomotive that has the larger drivers. I am wanting to model the Civil War also ,but there is nothing available that looks like the 1860’s Loco’s used in the military railroads as far as wheel size. The above Jupiter prototype looks nice, but needs a little bit larger driver. Just my opinion…Travis

A Civil war theme is on my list to. I started collecting the cannons etc… now I just need the 4-4-0 engine and then build the cars. Of course I would rather see the 4-4-0 with the larger wheels but in Live Steam.

John Le Forestier said:

You should also sell a stripped-down, basic black version, and a version with little or no superstructure at all. …

John,

My understanding is that this is a kit. You get to paint it whatever color you like.

And IF it is successful, they might make some more kits for you, like a large-drivered civil war era loco.

But if your gonna make a 4-4-0 kit why not go with the big driver to begin with? Just curious…

pur-dee!

Xavier,

When will this kit be in production?. Has there been a price set on it yet?. and How does one order it?. Travis

Travis Dague said:

But if your gonna make a 4-4-0 kit why not go with the big driver to begin with? Just curious…

Travis,

If you are new to the US market, why not go with a loco that many, many people have seen and that may be popular, rather than a loco that no-one has ever seen except in pictures? The nearest thing to a civil war era loco is the “William Mason” in the B&O RR Museum and that doesn’t have huge wheels.

Hello !
At this moment the prototype is being shown at the fair in Nuremberg. (Germany).
Regarding the price, the model BR-18 or the Pacific model, cost about ~ $ 300,
the price of Jupiter will be a little lower.
As soon as possible, I keep you inform both the availability and how to get it.
Anyway, we are looking to make a specific model for users of this forum, with a special price too.
Greetings!

Xavier

Pete,

I have seen the William Mason, I would like to see a loco similiar to the General in G-scale. I know about the Hartland Locos and they have very reliable drives too, But, anytime I find one they are always way out of my price range and usually are used also. Just want to see what this kit offers and compare my options…The Hartland Locos look alot more like toys than scale , but I still like them too. After looking at it The Mason looks pretty similiar to the General’s drivers so if it’s close then that would work for me…i’ll quit rambling…lol

Travis Dague said:

After looking at it The Mason looks pretty similiar to the General’s drivers so if it’s close then that would work for me…i’ll quit rambling…lol

Travis,

I have a “General” on my shelf here, and you are right that it has similar large drivers. But “Jupiter” has much larger drivers than the 3’ gauge 4-4-0s or the Hartland model. It has a large boiler as well.