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A new locomotive and wagon in kit

Ozark Miniatures is selling 1/29 and 1/32 so detail parts are starting to appear.

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Unlike 1:32, I don't see too many 1:29 scale kits or detailing parts ever having been available at all
Tony, That sems to me like a great marketing opportunity, or just a chicken-and-egg situation. Look around this site and there are folk kit-bashing all sorts of 1/29th scale stuff - Amtrak Superliner coaches (a kit, sorta), modified locos, buildings, etc.

If you build it, they will come . .

The major problem with scratchbuilding 1/29th stuff, is that one has to make everything because there were no ““1/29th detail parts”” that had been available, without wrecking some other railroad car… When scratch-building 1/29th stuff, basically, everything was scratch built… In my years, I’ve seen a heck of a lot of 1/29th scale scratch-builders, making mostly everything from scratch or casting many parts…

Only within the past few years, have I seen “1/29th scale parts”" become available to use with scratch-building…

Some excellent modelers, I might add…

Hi,
after a whilewe already have prepared the prototype of the locomotive Jupiter, in 1:32 scale
Obviously that’s a prototype, which is necessary to make some changes, but I think it can be a very interesting model, and of course at a very competitive price.
I hope you like it.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-012.jpeg)

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-005.jpeg)

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-007.jpeg)

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-009.jpeg)

Definitely not my cup of tea.
Nevertheless, good luck with the project. I hope it does well for you.

Ohhh pretty! I take it the UP 119 should be an easy followup

OOOHHHH!!! I think I just seen my paycheck loose a few bucks hehehe! A very nice model and very tempting even though I am a narrow guage person :slight_smile:

Victor Smith said:
Ohhh pretty! I take it the UP 119 should be an easy followup

Pretty loco, tho I’m not sure about that shade of blue!

P.S. “Leviathan” is a recent ‘new build’ locomotive copied from Jupiter.

I think the colour is pretty near…

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/25/CP_steam_loco.jpg/300px-CP_steam_loco.jpg)

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/xavier/JUPITER-012.jpeg)

Xavier Alvarez said:

I think the colour is pretty near…

Xavier,

I must agree that the current loco has a curious shade of blue paint. Nice model !

I believe there’s been quite a few color schemes used on the loco, and it’s current shade was researched by the National Parks Dept. (!?!) Thee’s some interesting infoat

http://discussion.cprr.net/2008/02/jupiter-119-paint-colors.html

Very nice model. Any chance of a slightly more scale wheel profile option?

Doug Arnold said:
Since we are talking about scales – I’m running 1/24 and building most everything. And I know I’m not alone!

I hear and agree most whole-heartedly. Whever said “F” scale was the most popular? Honestly I doubt those statistics very much indeed. I know several guys who have decided it’s too big for them, and MANY MANY who have invested a lot in 1:22 and are sticking with it rather than the new F thing. Tons of guys in 1:29. Whatever Xavier develops, he’d probably be wise to make something that we could all use. Much as I like the old Climax, I think a generic 4-4-0 chassis and mechanism that could be made or marketed with a choice of several different superstructures, (or none at all, or simple a stripped-down no frills one for the scratchbuilders) possibly stretching all the way back to the 1850’s, and all the way forward to the end of their useful life … I dunno - as recent as the 1930’s rebuild-on rebuilds, and was simple screwdriver construction would, I think, sell very well. I like the idea of Dick’s big motive power too; an eight-drivered loco based on similar principles might also sell very well, especially to the 1:29/1/32 crowd, and the rest of us might use the mechanism to build small 2-8-0’s or ???. As a general rule, smaller locos adapt better to most people’s curves, wouldn’t you agree? I occasionally hear the comment, “Only four-coupled locos will negotiate my curves.” But larger locos are certainly more interesting, I think. After all this typing, I still believe the 4-4-0 is the best way to go…

Ralph Berg said:

Pete Thornton said:
Guys, you’ll note Xavier mentioned “Jupiter” as a possible model.

An 1860’s 4-4-0 would be great. Although, I’d like to see it 1/24th scale :wink: A coach to go with it would be nice too. There is nothing available in Large Scale for this time period. Ralph

You get my vote. See also my earlier comments about making something like this, but a generic mech., with interchangeable superstructures…

Ralph Berg said:
Shawn, The HLW 4-4-0 has the small drivers. The 1860’s 4-4-0’s had the large drivers, like Pete’s photos. Bachmann’s narrow gauge 1/20.3 4-4-0 is also a much later time period locomotive. Ralph

As of page 3 here, Pete, Shawn, Ralph, and I are all onto the 4-4-0. Agreed the driver size is an issue at various stages of thei wheel arrangement’s history, driver size is an issue, 'tho I wonder if you made an old one with large drivers in a smaller scale, could the mech be adapted for a more modern one with smaller wheels in a larger scale…

Alternaetly, how about an American with intermediate - size drivers? Or maybe a basic frame that could accommodate two (probably enough) or three (that’d be truly great) different driver sizes. You’d also have to get the pilot wheels sorted out one way or another, too, of course.

It’d be great to have an American that you could easily swap out the cowcatcher for steps and a coupler pocket up there, maybe the same casting could be used on the back of the tender.

You should also sell a stripped-down, basic black version, and a version with little or no superstructure at all. The 4-4-0 type was in operation for a hundred years, and wore many costumes. This is nice, but gaudy; something of an antique curiosity rather than a workaday engine. By far most of us model later periods where the American would still be in use, but in plainer dress. We would want to keep the mech and change all the upper boiler detail for a start. Actually, everything but the boiler… that is, pilot (or cowcatcher), cab, tender body…

Can you sell the mech and boiler and loco and tender wheelsets alone?

I would like to also see a 4-4-0 Locomotive that has the larger drivers. I am wanting to model the Civil War also ,but there is nothing available that looks like the 1860’s Loco’s used in the military railroads as far as wheel size. The above Jupiter prototype looks nice, but needs a little bit larger driver. Just my opinion…Travis

Travis Dague said:

I would like to also see a 4-4-0 Locomotive that has the larger drivers. I am wanting to model the Civil War also ,but there is nothing available that looks like the 1860’s Loco’s used in the military railroads as far as wheel size. The above Jupiter prototype looks nice, but needs a little bit larger driver. Just my opinion…Travis

A Civil war theme is on my list to. I started collecting the cannons etc… now I just need the 4-4-0 engine and then build the cars. Of course I would rather see the 4-4-0 with the larger wheels but in Live Steam.

John Le Forestier said:

You should also sell a stripped-down, basic black version, and a version with little or no superstructure at all. …

John,

My understanding is that this is a kit. You get to paint it whatever color you like.

And IF it is successful, they might make some more kits for you, like a large-drivered civil war era loco.

But if your gonna make a 4-4-0 kit why not go with the big driver to begin with? Just curious…

pur-dee!

Xavier,

When will this kit be in production?. Has there been a price set on it yet?. and How does one order it?. Travis