Thanks, Jack!
I thought it might have something to do with the release of the model.
TOG
Quote:1 I dont know mate I have never seen one. 2 No sorry. 3 I personnaly dont run mixed stuff, I only have 1.22.5 except for the loggin stuff which I keep seperate. 4 Agin I dont know , sorry.
-- 1- Does the KISS loco, compared to the new B'mann K-27, require the same minimum radius? 2- Any idea as to cost? 3- Any opinion, considering 1:22 the loco's actual size, and most owner's mix of car sizes, that it will not be dwarfed and out of place? 4- Who carries this animal?
Not a lot of use really, although I did read that the Bachmann 1.20.3 K chassis might be a good bassis for a 1.22.5 K-36 model, scales out ok appearently. Have nt checked personnaly tho.
Oh PS. That K isnt a KISS, its a home made job.
Cheers
Rod!
Did I read correctly, the K loco in the photo you submitted was your creation?
Outstanding!
What did you base your structure on – a B’mann Connie?
Nice work.
As to KISS:
I tried the website note in an above post – in German and no evidence of a K-27 that I could see.
Meanwhile, craftsmenship may be the answer to attaining what may not be affordable.
Wendell
Yes mate, its a Connie under there, not a lot, but some.
The description of the build is here,
http://www.smegworld.org.uk/spaf/k27/log/k27log.htm
There are some gallery shots here
http://www.smegworld.org.uk/spaf/k27/log/kgal.htm
And some more Colorado stuff here in the articles C-21 and T-19 at
Thanks for the compliment
Cheers
Wendell,
It’s a K-36
http://www.kiss-modellbahnen.de/index.php?language=de&obereich=produkte&bereich=spur_2m&ubereich=loks_usa&file=content.BR_K_36.inc.php
Anybody bothered to tally up the results? That says a lot right there.
Ric Golding said:Yeah, it's generally "we don't care". ;) :)
Anybody bothered to tally up the results? That says a lot right there.
“Don’t care” may translate as we have lost interest in what is not of compelling interest!
Me? I find the LGB of America saga compelling. True, I am looking for material for my argumentation classes – believe me, it is coming. My interest does not wane, that’s because of my interest in the hobby in both the products, running trains, landscaping to accomodate my layout, and the industry itself.
Now, the industry is my focus.
My speculation is LGB was the singular product identification outside of people who use this website. Those outside this website were, in my judgment, iwere experiencing LGB’s retentive advertising - such as Campbell soup advertising – just keeping the customers they have world-wide. LGB collectors keep on going. The LGB Christmas 'round-the-tree group keeps on buying and making the Christmas market a big one.
Now…?
So what company will fill in? What company is NOW meeting the void at Christmas? Sure, you know, the tree in the window with the train at the sporting goods store with flat cars and gons repetitively going round’round displaying stocking stuffer gifts or small signs as to what is on sale. No, they do NOT sell trains in the store. Meanwhile, LGB sold 'em in the window. Install 'em, run 'em, the public stops and stares, the kids say where’s our tree 'n train. The rest of the story is told in the anticipated Christmas sales.
There’s my take on my interest. I do NOT see USA or Aristo filling in the Christmas time display gap. B’mann? OK, so there’s Sam’s club with the Christmas trains. Where’s the information in the B’mann box as to extending the hobby to the other 364 days of the year???
My bet is there is nothing. I hope I am wrong.
What then is the void and will the existing take it up?
Selah,
Wendell
In our world of being Grandparents now for 3 + years, Thomas the Tank Engine and all the related lead paint based toys has taken over and kept the market going. Through that young Luke has developed to being able to tell the differences of all the different geared engines and some rod drive engines. He does know the proper way to pronounce Mallet (his example is an LGB product) and if he has trouble later on in school pronouncing the word ballet wrong, we can blame it on the lead paint, the Chinese and the Germans. So all is good.
Ah! a Mallet melee
Ok…so wheres the Oktoberfest?
Bart Salmons said:
Ok…so wheres the Oktoberfest?
Wendell,
there is definately interest in the outcome of this saga. The LGB brandname is synonymous with outdoor garden railroading, like the famous Bic ‘biro’ and the ‘Hoover’ vacuum cleaner. People equate the product name as a generic description for all the products available. I have lost count of the number of times eBay listings have seen other brandname manufacturer items listed as ‘LGB’. While this may have been an attempt at deception to inflate the listing end price, it occurs so often that I believe that many equate all largescale items as ‘LGB’. This is why I feel that there is such intense interest in the topic, as for some, it represents the ‘survival’ of the hobby. There are many ‘hobbyists’, these days, that enter largescale knowing exactly nothing of the products produced to cater for the hobby. When I entered largescale many years ago, I had a knowlege gleaned from many years in smaller scales and was well aware of the range of items manufactured to satisfy the largescale market. Many simply do not have this knowlege when entering largescale these days, in fact, for many, it is their first hobby.
Hey Vic, nice jugs, big ones too…
Quote:Lionel has always been Christmas in the US of A and still is.
What company is NOW meeting the void at Christmas?
BUT LGB does define the gauge here more than any of the others in this gauge to the General public. I have heard the gauge referred to “G scale” or LGB. I always listen to the WLS Roe Conn Show when driving around the great state of Illinois [BIG talk show host and pretty funny] and LGB got mentioned last week by him. He apparently had LGB growing up as a kid [to set up real cool "train wrecks "]. He indicated that his trains were pretty durable. OF course they got the gauge wrong when talking about it though - typical. He said he should try to reinact the recent Metro train derailments in the Chicago area…
Let’s face it - that is why Marklin bought LGB. The vast and greater general PUBLIC could care less about accuracy of scale and are more concerned about durability. I live in a train town and most residents couldn’t tell you what a Dash 9 is even though they see about 100 a day trundle through here…
And I was recently contacted by someone who wants to put up an outdoor layout near the Knox County nursing home. My suggestion for engines and rolling stock was LGB. I think the Genesis loco and passenger cars would be a great hit as we see those units several times a day here stop at the AMTRAK station [8 to be exact].
Tim Brien said:Tim,
Wendell, there is definately interest in the outcome of this saga. The LGB brandname is synonymous with outdoor garden railroading, like the famous Bic 'biro' and the 'Hoover' vacuum cleaner. People equate the product name as a generic description for all the products available. I have lost count of the number of times eBay listings have seen other brandname manufacturer items listed as 'LGB'. While this may have been an attempt at deception to inflate the listing end price, it occurs so often that I believe that many equate all largescale items as 'LGB'. This is why I feel that there is such intense interest in the topic, as for some, it represents the 'survival' of the hobby. There are many 'hobbyists', these days, that enter largescale knowing exactly nothing of the products produced to cater for the hobby. When I entered largescale many years ago, I had a knowlege gleaned from many years in smaller scales and was well aware of the range of items manufactured to satisfy the largescale market. Many simply do not have this knowlege when entering largescale these days, in fact, for many, it is their first hobby.
Yes there is interest, but at the same time “ignorance is bliss” - someone once told me it’s much easier to cope with life that way.
It is also “interesting” to see just how much LS product knowledge there is out there, when one mfg gets equated with “being the hobby” then it is a situation with lots of bliss.
Stephen P
I’m sure that was interesting. Soooo where there any hard questions or just the usual soft lobs one is used to from the “Family”?
For Buffington, I guess it is time to be a publicist, again. 
Don’t the old timers at the nursing home remember steam? Just kidding. 