Large Scale Central

West Shore Local from 1906

General Discussion
#1

I found this video I thought some of you might like from Kingston NY 1906 Its very rare. The station I want to build is off to the left at the beginning. these tracks pass within one block of were I was born and grew up. We use to play Cowboys and Indians under the 2 abandoned over passes at the end of the video. Very cool Very cool, I can t wait to get started on the Station build. Nick Video http://youtu.be/Mk07VbUya-g Ive been doing a lot of research on this and have found a few rare pictures i had to pay 20.00 each for. Also found the old tax map from were the station was. Too bad it was torn down 3 days before my birth. Im starting to get a good picture in my head of the size. in 1/24th should be 2 and a half feet wide by 7 feet long. Looks like the skin and frame will be metal with plastic veneers. Should be a interesting build.

#2

Hey Nick - Cool station.

On your picture problems: Rename those last two pictures. Get rid of all the funky punctuation and spaces. The second one is a TIF file and can’t be displayed directly in a browser without an ad-on viewer.

Edit to add: That’s a very cool video. I like the manned crossings :slight_smile:

#3

Thanks for the help John, Greg showed me how to convert the files. Heres a real picture from 1883 there abouts.

Nick

#4

That’s quite the ambitious undertaking you have planned. I hope you keep us informed of your progress, it’ll be interesting following along while you build it.

#5

Nice video. Enjoyed seeing everybody “wave to the train” and the kid racing the locomotive on the bike with the big balloon tires. The RR had a lot of employees with a waving flag man at each of the in town grade crossings.

This was a nice chance to see living history.

Thanks for sharing.

Tom

#6

Very cool video Nick. Whenever I go hiking in the catskill Mtns. I always pass the Catskill Mtn. RR along I think its 28 by Phonecia ect… When I hike (bushwack to Southwest Hunter Mtn.) there is an old RR bed that was used as an incline RR to bring the lumber off the mountains. I beleive the log cars were pulled by horse. They even had a few log chutes. I always love that whole area. I know your more of a standard Gauge/modern guy but there is a great book called "The Catskill Forest A History by Michael Kudish. It gives a detailed history of the mountains with all the industries- tanneries, sawmills ect…, their locations as well as the railroad beds.

#7
Ken Brunt said:
That's quite the ambitious undertaking you have planned. I hope you keep us informed of your progress, it'll be interesting following along while you build it.
Yup Ken,

I will start a thread once I get closer to the project. I’m still in the process of figuring out the measurements and the amount of materials needed.

Nick

#8
Tom Grabenstein said:
Nice video. Enjoyed seeing everybody "wave to the train" and the kid racing the locomotive on the bike with the big balloon tires. The RR had a lot of employees with a waving flag man at each of the in town grade crossings.

This was a nice chance to see living history.

Thanks for sharing.

Tom


It’s amazing to see history in the flesh isn’t it.

Nick

#9
Shawn said:
Very cool video Nick. Whenever I go hiking in the catskill Mtns. I always pass the Catskill Mtn. RR along I think its 28 by Phonecia ect..... When I hike (bushwack to Southwest Hunter Mtn.) there is an old RR bed that was used as an incline RR to bring the lumber off the mountains. I beleive the log cars were pulled by horse. They even had a few log chutes. I always love that whole area. I know your more of a standard Gauge/modern guy but there is a great book called "The Catskill Forest A History by Michael Kudish. It gives a detailed history of the mountains with all the industries- tanneries, sawmills ect..., their locations as well as the railroad beds.
Shawn I thought you'd like that, Thats your era of loco's no ? I went and ordered the book today, should be here in a couple of days.

Another good read of that area is a book by John Ham a local historical guy called “the old up and down” has a lot of great R.R. pictures

and info from the past. Covers from Kingston to the Catskills a Great book.

Nick

#10

:cool:
Old stills are nice, but old movies are even better :wink:
Ralph

#11
Ralph Berg said:
:cool: Old stills are nice, but old movies are even better ;) Ralph
From then till now Ralph.

Video http://youtu.be/3hre8VLZt2Q

Nick

#12
Nicholas Savatgy said:
Shawn said:
Very cool video Nick. Whenever I go hiking in the catskill Mtns. I always pass the Catskill Mtn. RR along I think its 28 by Phonecia ect..... When I hike (bushwack to Southwest Hunter Mtn.) there is an old RR bed that was used as an incline RR to bring the lumber off the mountains. I beleive the log cars were pulled by horse. They even had a few log chutes. I always love that whole area. I know your more of a standard Gauge/modern guy but there is a great book called "The Catskill Forest A History by Michael Kudish. It gives a detailed history of the mountains with all the industries- tanneries, sawmills ect..., their locations as well as the railroad beds.
Shawn I thought you'd like that, Thats your era of loco's no ? I went and ordered the book today, should be here in a couple of days.

Another good read of that area is a book by John Ham a local historical guy called “the old up and down” has a lot of great R.R. pictures

and info from the past. Covers from Kingston to the Catskills a Great book.

Nick


Nick Ill have to order those books. I love the history of that area. You are correct I do like that era. Good stuff. I think you will really enjoy reading that book. One of the best detailed history of the Catskill mtns.

#13

I looked at this Archive site before and remembered that it has quite a lot of interest about fallen flag railroads, their history and the history of the Catskills area.

I once saw a tv programme about the Catskills a few years ago: it was about folks going there for holidays and the entertainment that was provided. Anyone who is, or was, a firefighter will appreciate the story about the great fire that destroyed the Hotel Kaaterskill in 1924.

#14

Alan Lott said:
I looked at this Archive site before and remembered that it has quite a lot of interest about fallen flag railroads, their history and the history of the Catskills area. I once saw a tv programme about the Catskills a few years ago: it was about folks going there for holidays and the entertainment that was provided. Anyone who is, or was, a firefighter will appreciate the story about the great fire that destroyed the Hotel Kaaterskill in 1924.

Alan, The Catskill mountains were full of resorts back in the day, The West shore RR was built to service them. People would come up to Kingston by boat then the Train would take way up into the mountains to the resorts Back then you had to be very rich to come up to the Catskills to vacation. In my research ive also found that we had a Amusement park at the foot of Delaware Ave were the Trains, and boats met at the Hudson River to unload passengers. All this i didnt know and ive lived here all my life. Its funny what you find when your digging around for something else. Nick

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#15
Alan Lott said:
I looked at this Archive site before and remembered that it has quite a lot of interest about fallen flag railroads, their history and the history of the Catskills area.

I once saw a tv programme about the Catskills a few years ago: it was about folks going there for holidays and the entertainment that was provided. Anyone who is, or was, a firefighter will appreciate the story about the great fire that destroyed the Hotel Kaaterskill in 1924.


I have hiked all the Catskill peakes that are 3500ft and higher (35 total) Been to the old site of the Hotel Kaaterskill. Its also the land of Rip Vanwinkle. People in the day were afraid of the Catskills Mountains. It was thought the Devil lived their. With names like the Devils Kitchen, Devils tombstone or the Devils path. When I hike the mountains they have a spooky feel to them with the dark coves ect… Its probably my faverite area to hike.

#16

Shawn said:

Alan Lott said:
I looked at this Archive site before and remembered that it has quite a lot of interest about fallen flag railroads, their history and the history of the Catskills area. I once saw a tv programme about the Catskills a few years ago: it was about folks going there for holidays and the entertainment that was provided. Anyone who is, or was, a firefighter will appreciate the story about the great fire that destroyed the Hotel Kaaterskill in 1924.

I have hiked all the Catskill peakes that are 3500ft and higher (35 total) Been to the old site of the Hotel Kaaterskill. Its also the land of Rip Vanwinkle. People in the day were afraid of the Catskills Mountains. It was thought the Devil lived their. With names like the Devils Kitchen, Devils tombstone or the Devils path. When I hike the mountains they have a spooky feel to them with the dark coves ect… Its probably my faverite area to hike.

I’m not afraid… HE HE HE :slight_smile:

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#17

Found this post card today, I like the color, this maybe the color of the model. I think this station was painted a lot in its 80 year history, I was told by a old timer last week that the NYC painted it a puke green in its final years in service.

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#18

Nick,
As that’s a “color added” photo, it’s hard to tell how accurate the color is.
Just go with what you like :slight_smile:
Ralph

#19
Ralph Berg said:
Nick, As that's a "color added" photo, it's hard to tell how accurate the color is. Just go with what you like :) Ralph
Ralph, Yes burgundy it shall be, I also like the awnings on the sides..........

Cooooooooooooool…You Betcha :slight_smile:

#20

The station project has begun…

O My… Metal ? Plastic ? stay tuned for something different.