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Waverly Southern RR Mik's Build Challenge 2017

The WSRR is in need of a water tank. Some time ago, I came across a tank I liked in an ad in the Narrow Gauge and Shortline Gazette. It was a model from Evergreen Hill Designs, LLC called the Branchline Water Tank.

I like the wooden structure and the fact that the tank itself is a cube instead of a cylinder (much easier to build for a simple mind like mine). Since this year’s challenge requires the use of stone, I remembered I had also seen a tank with a stone foundation in an article in the same magazine. The tank was on Douglas Ramos’ The Poverty Gulch & Opulence Railroad.

So, I decided to combine the two and build the tank shown below. I think it will look good on the WSRR if and when it gets constructed. I’m doing some serious Devoning on that. Time to notify B.C. Paws and R.E. Mington that they have a new project!!

I like! I was also pondering a similar water tank, but the station idea won out eventually.

Square wood tank on a cut stone foundation. That will be a very unique build that is sure to catch attention.

WSRR’s Chief Engineer, R.E. Mington has been working on designing and developing a 3D model of the water tank that Mr. Paws requested. Working from a rudimentary drawing, Mington produced the model below. The mechanical workings of the tank are not modeled yet, but Mington wanted to see what you thought of what he had so far. All comments are welcome.

Cool!!!

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i would make thicker beams and posts.

Nice ideas. Looking forward to watching this develop.

Well, I have made absolutely no progress this weekend. My son and I went hunting yesterday and this morning. Glad the family is not depending on us for meat for the winter, we would all starve. I did get the shop straightened up this afternoon so I can now get to my table saw. I hope to get the wood milled tomorrow since I am off. Shouldn’t take long once I get started.

I have enjoyed watching those that have already started. A lot of progress being made this weekend.

I finally got to make some sawdust late this afternoon. I had hoped to spend most of the day cutting wood, but the wife had other plans for my day off. She had to work today, so she made sure that she left a long list of projects she wanted done. After completing my list, I got to cutting about 4:30.

Several months ago, I picked up a truck load of used oak flooring that a gentleman was throwing away. Whoever put it down used cut nails and drove each nail by hand. I decided to use the flooring to build the water tank. Here is a sample of the flooring before I started but after I pulled all the nails.

Now cut to rough lengths.

And here is some to final dimensions.

Still have a lot to mill but at least we are now moving forward. More to come.

Progress Dan.

Your on the way.

Thanks Devon. Lot of other projects going on around the house right now. Biggest one is the building of an outdoor wood fired oven. I’ll document that project on here once I’m done under “other hobbies”. We are also having to replace one of our geothermal hvac units and the house was literally built around the unit so I spent yesterday cutting a 40"x40" hole through brick and cmu’s into the crawl space under our house to get the unit out and to make matters worse, it’s also hunting season.

Ok, enough with my sob story. I’ll get 'er done.

Oh the oven sounds fun, I have always wanted one. Now the geothermal compressor not so much.

Dan, Is the hunting season still, 1 a Day, 1 in possession? Slugs?

Dave the current bag limits are a doe a day and 3 bucks per season. One of the bucks must be an 8 pt or better. The current limits were set about 5 years ago. Prior to that it was 2 does and 1 buck per day. We have way too many deer. Slugs, buckshot and rifles, including black powder, are allowed.

Dan Hilyer said:
…doe a day …

I thought it was “Doe a deer, a female deer; ray, a drop of golden sun; me, a name I call myself…”

A doe a day? and 3 bucks a year? Is there a total number does allowed? I assume you need a tag for each doe, what does it cost for tags. What is the doe season?

That is a pretty remarkable harvest limit. Wish I could help out.

Devon, there is no limit on does other than one a day. In other words, you can harvest a doe each day of the season. The gun season runs from Nov. 19 tnru Feb. 10. You do not have to purchase tags but you do have to document each kill on a form provided by the state and through an automated phone/online registration system. When you harvest a deer you have to call or go online to receive a confirmation number that must be recorded on the provided form. Not sure what resident hunting licenses cost now. My dad gave me a lifetime hunting and fishing license for my 16th birthday. Well … give me just a minute and I will look it up …ok, a resident annual hunting license is … you ready … a whopping $26.20. Annual fishing is $13.10.

Well, I’ve reached one of my modeling goals with this project, I made my first resin casting. I have always been intrigued and somewhat envious of those of you who make your own resin castings. To be able to make multiple copies of pieces and parts (windows, doors, stones, etc.) required to make realistic models, opens up a whole new world of opportunities. Those of you who have been doing this for years already know this, obviously. Every time I read a post here where one of you has cast several duplicate parts for your models, the little man who sets on my shoulder says: “Dan, you need to get off your butt (Little Man didn’t use the word butt but since this is a family oriented site I took the liberty of cleaning up his foul language. Little Man and I are pretty frank with one another.) and learn that technique. It would save the both of us a lot of time and frustration and save me from having to hear you grumble because your tired of doing the same thing over and over and over and over.” My reply has always been: “Little Man, I agree with you, but that looks complicated and the ingredients are not cheap. Might be an expensive learning curve.”

When Dave announced the Challenge this year, Little Man and I decided that it was time, so we asked Momma for casting supplies for our birthday and she obliged. Side Note: Now that Momma has seen what we can do, she is already making a list of items she wants us to make for her crafts.

What’s to follow is our journey into the world of casting. This journey would not have been possible without all the great folks here on this site that shared their process with all of us. I thank each of you for your help.

Can you tell I’m excited? Sorry for the long post, more to come. And yes, I got pictures!!

The stone foundation of the water tank I’m building for this year’s challenge is quite large. Once it was designed, I realized that I did not have enough stones (that’s never been an issue before, by the way!!), so Little Man and I decided to try our hand at resin casting. I went by our local sign company and asked Miss Lagina if she had any scrap PVC foam board and she loaded me up. Now realize, I have never worked with this material before so I did not have any idea how well this stuff could be milled and shaped other than the insights gained from this community here. WOW, I love PVC foam board. It mills like wood, is easily glued together, can be shaped with woodworking hand tools, and on and on and on. I haven’t looked up the structural properties yet to see how it compares with wood, but I will soon. I will be going back to see Miss Lagina again.

Sorry for wandering. Ok, I followed Dave’s technique of cutting strips of the foam board and then used a wood gouge to simulate the surface of cut stone.

That is not an easy venture by the way. It took me about an hour to shape those two strips. I actually shaped them while they were a single strip and then ripped it on the table saw to get the two strips. Then I had to go back and re-shape the cut edge on both pieces. Next I cut the strips into individual stones, again using the table saw and a simple jig to get them all the same length. Now each stone has a cut edge on each end so I had to re-shape the ends. My hats off to Dave and his crew over at Taylor Stone. I did not make very many stones for my first attempt and I was tired when I got through with all the shaping. I can only imagine what Dave went through to make his masters. Thanks Dave for all you do.

So here are my masters. As I said, I did not make many to start with because I wanted to see how well they turned out before I committed to making a bunch.

I built a mold box out of some styrene I had laying around. I used hot glue to hold each master in place in the box.

My first mistake occurred here. I don’t think you can see it in the photo, but the stones are not setting completely flat against the bottom of the box. I noticed this once they had been glued down and tried to press them down tightly, but apparently either the bottoms of the stones were not flat or the hot glue prevented them from sitting flat. Regardless, that impacted the mold. It did not prevent the mold from being used, but I had to do a lot of cleanup to get the mold ready for resin. It turned out not to be a major mistake, but I learned a valuable lesson which is the whole point of this process, right?

Gotta go put a brisket on the BGE. I’ll be back to show you the final product in a little while.

Good job Dan… Glad to see you survived last nights storm… Keep it up.

2 Notes:

The resin has a shelf life. So don’t buy volume that you won’t use up by the expiration date. If it gets close to expiring, just break out a mold or two and cast something that you will use on yet another build down the road. Use mold release every time, as it makes your molds last longer.

I use resin from Aeromarine Products, out of San Diego. It is pro grade stuff. There is a difference from the consumer grade. They also sell on eBay.

https://www.aeromarineproducts.com