Vince
Vince said:
If you know of one for sale I am wanting twoVince
My dear fellow - why on earth would you want ONE, let alone TWO of this POS?
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
I almost said something yesterday, but figured I’d wait.
Vince-
Unless you are a collector, and shelf-queens is what you desire, ditto on TAC’s comments.
Last year we had a fellow buy one off evilbay and scream bloody murder over Bachmann not having warranty parts (irregardless he was not original purchaser, had bought off evilbay, and it was FAR more than one year old).
THERE ARE NO PARTS.
Once you understand that, I do believe there is an outfit in the UK that breaks them up for parts, and has some.
TOC
Curmudgeon said:I'd be more than happy to break one up, but it wouldn't be for parts.
I do believe there is an outfit in the UK that breaks them up for parts, and has some. TOC
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
PS - Dave, I can’t believe that even the British are THAT keen to rescue these things!
Isn’t hindsight a wonderful thing.
When it first came out to a fanfare of publicity from Bachmann and the magazine reviewers we were all told how wonderful it was. Having been used to understated LGB quality, I naively assumed all LS stuff was built to the same standards. I now recognise this was the first case of LS spin I had come across, that was so blatant it made your head spin. Nowadays, they all do it. Must have learnt it from the Pollies.
Based on the fanfare of publicity I obtained one.
I ran it it immediately and noticed it performed like a Formula 1 racing car. No low speed control and a top speed compared to other LS locos on the same voltage that guaranteed it would derail at the first bend.
I pulled it apart to investigate and within five minutes I had worked out why it was such a POJ and said so in public.
Body shell and details not bad. Wrong scale, but not bad.
Drive system junk.
As is usual, the Bachmann shills castigated me for having the temerity to complain.
I got rid of it ASAP.
I did do a battery conversion for one customer only after explaing the shortcomings of the loco. I ran it on the lowest voltage the controller could handle. Apparently he was satisfied with the outcome as I have never heard a complaint from him.
I do know of a couple that have been regearboxed with LGB mechs, but still the problem of massive overhang on the couplers means they were limited to wide radius curves.
Don’t touch it unless you intend parking it permanently or rebuilding it.
Tony, Perhaps what’s required is a “discarded Bachmann engines” rescue service. You know they have those for four legged dogs, why not for the other variety? USA clearing house for POJ; could be a great source for kitbash parts, too! Disclaimer: never bought a LS Bachmann engine, yet. But I like the looks of the Shays, good scale, too. Maybe one day when I get bored with the RhB.
Terry A de C Foley said:Vince said:
If you know of one for sale I am wanting twoVince
My dear fellow - why on earth would you want ONE, let alone TWO of this POS?tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
Because I want to bash them into a mogul and need 2 for the extra drivers, boiler length, and siderod parts.
I have a new drive mechanism to repower it.
What sort of drive mechanism?
Terry A de C Foley said:Vince said:
If you know of one for sale I am wanting twoVince
My dear fellow - why on earth would you want ONE, let alone TWO of this POS?tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
He could crap on one and cover it up with the other, Sorry couldn’t resist
If I recall (and I have done extensive work on these over the years to keep them running for folks, including rebuilding crumbling side covers with JBWeld) the drivers may not do you any good unless you want outside frame, as they do not have crankpins or counterweights in them.
Curmudgeon said:Strue. It's an outside-frame job...that would be an interesting mogul indeed. As TOC notes, the plastic on the last one I saw - about a year ago - was actually crumbling like old cake in the areas of stress.
If I recall (and I have done extensive work on these over the years to keep them running for folks, including rebuilding crumbling side covers with JBWeld) the drivers may not do you any good unless you want outside frame, as they do not have crankpins or counterweights in them.
Bachmann did themselves no favours with this thing.
And for H-J - treat yourself to a Bachmann biggy. I have one of each of the older geared locos, the Connie [in WP&YRR] and just one Annie [the same]. All are fine runners - even the Shay, which is still on its original power trucks - I have a set of new ones for when it finally gives up.
I’m sure that you could find room on the RhB for a little Climax-type loco with a bit of judicious bashing into Swiss-style fittings. There is a lot of room for a cuckoo-clock on the top of the smokebox.
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
Was the “Lynn” a differant version of the 2-4-2T that b’mann came out with? I have a Coal Creek Lumber version of it and never had a problem with it. And I’ve run the heck out of it. Right now it’s on a shelf waiting to be converted to R/C and batteries.
This must be a newer, improved version.
Ken Brunt said:
Was the “Lynn” a differant version of the 2-4-2T that b’mann came out with? I have a Coal Creek Lumber version of it and never had a problem with it. And I’ve run the heck out of it. Right now it’s on a shelf waiting to be converted to R/C and batteries.
This must be a newer, improved version.
I am looking for the Bachmann version, yes. I need an outside frame type set up, without counterweights. I am attempting to recreate a Sandy River & Rangely lakes 2 foot gauge Mogul “The James Wyman”, which was originally built for the Laurel River & Hot Springs. As for the drive, it is a custom job, gauged to run on 32mm track to better represent ( visually ) the 2 foot gauge using Llagas Creek track. I just need to get appropriate driver wheels and side rods done up. I may just get one of these now and build a new frame using the original as a guide. Drivers may still be a problem as I need 6 of course…perhaps I can find that place that chops them up and get 2 more… Vince
Well, I LIVE in the UK and I’ve never heard of it.
Sorry I can’t help…
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
The story I heard, and it’s just a story, was the UK branch insisted on the Lynn, that it would sell like hotcakes at a pancake breakfast.
It didn’t.
Master Riley was approached to save the day.
Re-done as Coal Creek, will all sorts of add-on gimmicks, and my understanding is different gears (the Lynn was a rocketship).
The same plastics issues that plagued the early Shay later continued in the Coal Creek.
If yours is good now, it should stay good.
Survival of the fittest springs to mind.
Vince-
Just use the wheel diameter you want (and close works on an outside frame), even with crankpin holes and counterweights (once again, close works when hidden by an outside frame).
Even Trolley wheels might do you best.
Tell me the diameter you seek.
TOC
Hey I’d LOVE to get my itchy hands on one of these, been looking for quite some time but they always go for too pretty a penny on Evil-bay, even the 1st gen POSs.
I want to rebuild it with a Stainz block, seen it done over on the GR forum and it looks nice and the builder says it runs great.
Being relatively new to LS, this is the first I’ve heard of the Lynn problems. Since I’m often interested in buying used equipment on ebay, I’m wondering if there are any other locos (Bachmann or otherwise) which should be avoided like the plague?
Yes.
But, at least with all the others, fixes are generally available.
Hot glue, Lock-Tite, Barry’s Chassis, that kind of stuff.
The problem with the 2-4-2T is the comment “survival of the fittest”.
If it’s lasted this long without crumbling, it’s probably okay.
Still, there’s the gear issues, and any overloading of the motors, which melts the housing.
Last time someone asked that question of a Forum, the weltherfactor kicked in, and some aXXhole decided to modify a post and send it to Bachmann in a vain attempt to get me sued, so we are not going to get into listing of problem areas other than those under discussion.
Yo Dave - in UK law, there is a very fine distinction between opinion, and fact. You may express your opinion in a court of law without it being a res verum ‘fact’. You may say, ‘It is my opinion, based on my many years experience, that this object is a POS’. You cannot state that ‘It IS a POS’ without placing the burden of proving it on your own back. It is then up to you to prove that it is is a POS.
However, there is a lot of evidence over here in UK, as well as on your side of the planet, that this particular Bachmann product suffered from what are euphemistically known as ‘unusually variable production standards’, particularly with regard to the quailty of the plastics used in the chassis. The model failed to create great amounts of glee on this side of water for other reasons, too, not least of which was its prediliction for taking off at a scale 200mph at the slightest whiff of Volts & Amps. The orginal ‘Lyn’ was all tuckered out at about 20mph…
Your unnamed plonker who bubbled you to Bachmann would have had his clock cleaned in court, had it ever gotten that far. I frequently appear in court to offer my opinion, which is based on fact and experience in my specialist area of interest - firearms.
Q: tac, what, in your opinion, is the object held in the right-hand of the person depicted on the CCTV movie clip?
A: Sir, the object has the appearance of a Colt .45 self-loading pistol.
Q: tac, have you any personal experience of any kind that would enable you to form this opinion?.
A: Sir, since the age of six [I am now 58 years old] I have either seen or handled a Colt .45 self-loading pistol nearly every day of my life, and between 1972 and late-1997 I shot such weapons in US-sponsored competitions both here in Europe and in the USA on no less than 388 occasions. I still have seven such weapons in deactivated form.
Q: tac, given the obvious clarity of the image we see before us on the screen, is it your opinion that he could be holding some other object, such, perhaps, a platypus, sea-cucumber or coffee-grinder?
A: Sir, not unless those objects could be mistaken for a handgun with the overall appearance of a Colt .45 self-loading pistol by a person such as myself, brought into this court to give my expert opinion on my specialised area of expertise - that of firearms. I am not, please note, an Expert Witness on either Australasian wildlife, oceanic invertebrates or kitchen utensils, although I have seen such objects.
Q: tac, [ with a faint snigger] I take it then, that you are firm in your opinion that this is in fact what you believe it to be…and will not be disavowed of your opinion?
A: I am totally convinced that the object I see has the appearance of a Colt .45 self-loading pistol, even to the markings on the slide [explains slide].
See, opinion CAN be based on fact and experience.
Best wishes
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
Terry A de C Foley said:
A: Sir, since the age of six [I am now 58 years old] I have either seen or handled a Colt .45 self-loading pistol nearly every day of my life, .....tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
I love this forum!
I would like to see someone produce a 2-6-2 with nice proportions in Fn3…Thomas the Tank Engine has a fairly new friend named Arthur that is a 2-6-2T (LMS Ivatt Class 2 2-6-2T)…although European and not fitting well with my line, that would be a nice model too!
cale