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Two bay NG hopper

Next on the project list is a two bay NG hopper. Bachmann hopper as a prototype.

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Awesome! I’d be interested in a few of these!

If you don’t have a source for Vulcan trucks, many of these rode on arch bar trucks! I bought a few used Bachmann 2-bays several years ago and was surprised to find the Vulcan trucks had been removed and replaced with arch bar style. The seller educated me that it’s a more accurate model with arch bars which forced me to research and verify that!

I recall that you ventured down this path years ago with acrylic and were never satisfied with the results. I recall something about frame weakness. I assume that with 3D printing you can incorporate an aluminum U channel as the base frame like Dan does in many of his designs.

Yea, the plan is to have the center beam contain some kind of aluminum box/channel/something for strength. Plus Ill be able to slot-and-tab the assembly. Currently working on the slope sheets, and then Ill be able to see how these will assemble.

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Geoff Ringle found some 1/2" aluminum U channel to use as the spine of various EBT cars, especially the hoppers. I still have a few feet somewhere.

Jon

The Bachmann 2 bay hopper is a model of the 2 bay rock cars on the EBT #s 618 633 636 and 638 built in 1930. These 4 cars have Vulcan trucks.

Stan

Slope sheet design. Has a built-in box section for the aluminum channel. Coupler mount will be attached to this as well. Starting to get a picture of how all the parts will fit together. Major parts will be two sides, two slope sheets, two ends, a center peak for the bays, and the combination bolster/mid-end plate. And a handful of other details.

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Yes, I knew that, thanks.

The original PSC cars in the 800 series of two-bays ran on arch bar trucks. Only one survived in it’s original form. #800 which was converted to a side dump is the only survivor in it’s two bay incarnation. Some were converted to 3 bays, but I didn’t chase down the current status of them.

The models I purchased used had been weathered and numbered in the original PSC series, as 810 and 838. Those numbered cars should ride on arch bars. Only one of the two I purchased did. I converted the second. The Vulcan trucks I took off will hopefully ride under a steel box car if I ever build the kits I bought from Bob!

Car end v1.0. Not quite there. Vertical supports are a bit thin.

I say slap a pair of Barber S-2 trucks on it an call it done!

This is better for the ends. With assembly tabs.

One side with assembly tabs. Coming together.

The interior is interesting. Lots of angles. Will probably have something like 3 pieces that fit in over the hoppers and aluminum channel.

Slope sheet, beam, coupler pocket.

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Bob,

you get good enough with this and Stan will want a bunch!

Al P.

He’s already messaged me! :slight_smile:

We could have a Build a Fleet party once you’ve got all the bugs worked out and a bunch of parts printed.

Looking really good so far.

And there were only 4 of them, so I don’t know about making a fleet.

Note the vulcan trucks were, I think, shorter than the standard ones under the 3-bays. Might have to print them too!

Andrews trucks, if you can find some, are almost identical to vulcans. I got mine from Phil Dippel, but I don’t think he sells them these days.

Well, according to R&K there were 40 built by PSC and another 30 built by EBT. Depending on what exact era you want to model, there certainly could be a train or two of them. Perhaps not exactly as Bachmann detailed them.

Jon, do you have the Quick Pic book for them? I should pick one up… Those are a great reference.

From my pics …906?

No. I have the book for the 3 Bay Hoppers, Steel Boxcar and Combine15. Some of the hardware is probably similar to the 3 bay. The truck info in the 3 way book would apply.

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