Not the models, but the prototype.
For the NA market. Not counting Mexico.
History says it was the set of Uintah mallets.
Am I correct in assuming this?
jb
John,
To my knowledge, yes.
I would be interested to find otherwise.
Rick Marty
I don’t know of any NG steam locos that were larger.
BTW, I saw something online a couple years ago about a RR down in Brazil that has narrow gauge Dash 9’s! But that’s SA, not NA.
There were much larger Mallets made for export to Mexico and particularly Brazil, but in the US, the Uintah’s were King.
The reason I left Mexico out, is yes, they had some beautiful mallets. But no manufacture has made a model of any.
Well they havent made any of the Mini-Big Boys exported to Brazil either, Baldwin built some absolutely huge (for narrow gauge) articulated engines for the export market. I’m actually surprised Bachmann didnt chose one of these export models for their first articulated model.
Would have been better than that ugly thing they chose.
And then they chose that Mexican 2-8-0 for their first NG consolidation, instead of say, a C series D&RGW.
Go figure…
Oh come on Jerry, if it was pretty, it wouldn’t be so attractive.
I agree about the C, but Accucraft already had a C-16 on the market, I’m sure that had an influence. I just think the Connie should have been a US profile inside frame model, there sure were plenty to chose from.
Heres a nice site showng NG articulateds
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/
Largest how?
Overall Size: Uintah 2-6-6-2T
Total Weight: D&RGW K-37
Snoq. Pass RR said:
Largest how?Overall Size: Uintah 2-6-6-2T
Total Weight: D&RGW K-37
Overall size.
Length, width and height.
Or any configuration of the above.
A K-37 may be wider than the Uintah.
And that includes tender,
So therefore the Sumpter Valley’s just bested the Uintahs.
John Bouck said:Snoq. Pass RR said:
Largest how?Overall Size: Uintah 2-6-6-2T
Total Weight: D&RGW K-37
Overall size.
Length, width and height.
Or any configuration of the above.A K-37 may be wider than the Uintah.
And that includes tender,
So therefore the Sumpter Valley’s just bested the Uintahs.
Well the Uintahs and the SVs were the same locos…but they subtracted from the engine weight at SV by removing the side tanks too.
Were getting in the Big Boy/Allegeney/Y6b discussion in NG! heheehe
You call THAT a ‘large’ NG locomotive?
Take a look at THIS one -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRbTLWwA638
Maybe it doesn’t count, though, since it’s not American…
It IS British-built, though.
tac
Might be big, TAC, but what a whimpy whistle!
John Bouck said:Gosh, John, I did not think there is any need to explain this... this Garratt's whistle was especially engineered so that one on a G-scale live steam model would sound more realistic! Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi
Might be big, TAC, but what a whimpy whistle!
I have never understood why Euro-Afri-Asian steam whistles and dismal horns are so wimpy.
How can anyone hear them at a crossing?
The Swiss electrics, for example, have a tweet for a horn.
Could you imagine blasting thru a sleepy Euro town with the whistle off of a US Northern steam loco!
Or a set of Nathans.
Maybe it’s a noise law…
John Bouck said:
I have never understood why Euro-Afri-Asian steam whistles and dismal horns are so wimpy. How can anyone hear them at a crossing? The Swiss electrics, for example, have a tweet for a horn. Could you imagine blasting thru a sleepy Euro town with the whistle off of a US Northern steam loco! Or a set of Nathans. Maybe it’s a noise law…![]()
The RhB/FO/BVZ and many of the other NG railways used to have these nice whistles. They changed to whimpy horns because there was less chance of triggering avalanches, something about pitch and such. You will never find a model of a mainline engine with one of those whimpy horns on my GMRR! BTW the whistles were always in direct proportions to the engineer’s ego. Loud enough to be heard and noticed, without being a MEGA-SUPER-DOOPER production. Falls into the Jumbo Shrimp, Biggie Size and other such category. Sorry just couldn’t resist.
BTW2 on that South African engine, they obviously use the steam to power the drivers, rather than blow their own whistle.
(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/teufel/devil-smiley-023.gif)
John Bouck said:Doan' no nuffin' 'bout no whistle, on account I's one deef dude.
Might be big, TAC, but what a whimpy whistle!
tac
Uintahs articulateds weren’t the largest in the world but the grade/curves they were designed to negotiate could be termed notorious. This is a photo taken last year of morro castle curve on the original Uintah grade, now a county maintained road. The 1:1 radius is around 93 ft all while consistantly climbing a 7.5 percent grade (rising 7 1/2 ft. in 100 feet). The debris that has accumulated near the toe of the rock cliff if removed might add another 20 or 30 ft. to the diameter in this photo but it would still look like a jeep trail.
(http://www.lscdata.com/users/ssordd/_forumfiles/morrocastle3.jpg)
David Ross said:
Uintahs articulateds weren’t the largest in the world but the grade/curves they were designed to negotiate could be termed notorious. This is a photo taken last year of morro castle curve on the original Uintah grade, now a county maintained road. The 1:1 radius is around 93 ft all while consistantly climbing a 7.5 percent grade (rising 7 1/2 ft. in 100 feet). The debris that has accumulated near the toe of the rock cliff if removed might add another 20 or 30 ft. to the diameter in this photo but it would still look like a jeep trail.
Nice try David, but these Kitson-Meyers could travel 8 percent grade;-) on adhesion units alone and initially, they also had rack and pinion mechanisms installed (later removed)
(http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/7/6/2/1762.1106259960.jpg)
see the excellent book Kitson Meyer Articulated Locomotives by Donald Bins (Trackside Publications) http://www.transportdiversions.com/publicationshow.asp?pubid=4232or some info on Mr Telefont’s site: http://www.kitson-meyer.com/ Best wishes from Tokyo, Zubi PS You probably would not even get to the summit (13.082ft) of the Transandine line in your jeep to take a photo…