It’s a Republic and not a Democracy like the people have been taught for the last 40 years. Multiculturalism and Socialism is bringing this Great Country to it’s knees.
What a load of rubbish! The one doesn’t exclude the other, as has been proven the world over (with various rates of success).
I grew up in a republic called Switzerland, not withstanding that women lacked the right to vote up into the 1970s, the rest of the institutions were/are just about as democratic as they can get i.e. it is the populace at large that decides. This starts at the municipal level and extends right up to the federal level where there is not only the right to initiatives to propose laws there is also the right to referenda to challenge laws that have been passed by parliament.
Perhaps you should see an ophthalmologist about your apparently severe case of myopia!
If you watched the video, and understood the “wild west gunman” analogy, then you may understand how a republican form of government really operates. Whereas in a democracy 51% of the majority could vote to legally kick you out of you home.
David,
I get the impression that your name would be more fitting if it were OverTheHill. I watched the whole rubbish and that’s what it still is: rubbish! It’s another one of those instances: food for the gullible and simpletons!
Quote:The word "Democracy" as it's commonly used in today's society applies to our current form of government based on laws. (Even W stated his goal was to defend and spread "democracy.") Having learned about our form of government within the past 40 years, I can say with absolute certainty that we were taught about the constitution, rule of law, states' and individual's rights, etc., (and that our form of government is technically termed a "republic"--i.e., representative government). All this is taught under the generic umbrella of the term "democracy," which in this sense has a much broader meaning than the more specific "majority rule." We're taught that the word has a specific meaning based on history, as well as a broader, cultural meaning. No one who remembers anything from high school civics class suffers the dilusion that we--as private citizens--have any [i]direct[/i] say in what laws come out of any government entity. That's why we're taught about how important it is to go and vote. That's ultimately how we have our say.
... It's a Republic and not a Democracy like the people have been taught for the last 40 years.
It’s very much like large scale. Purists can scream and holler unitl they’re blue in the face that “G scale” is historically a specific reference to 1:22.5. Technically they’re correct, but the term has now been popularized as a generic term for most all trains that we operate in the garden. Whether we–as individuals–choose to use this generalized term is up to our own choices, but the evolution of language has crafted its more generic use. I know whenever I walk into a hobby shop that when I see a sign that says “G-scale,” I’ll find the trains I want, even though I model 1:20.3, not 1:22.5.
Trust me–when those who don’t particularly like us very well say “Down with Democracy,” we don’t say “Oh, good. We’re a Republic, so they’re not talking about us.”
Now, if you’ll kindly excuse me, I need to take an aspirin and grab a kleenex, before I go get my xerox off the printer.
Later,
K
I’m still trying to figure out how multiculturalism and socialism are the same thing
Mike,
as a multicultural country, we are also a ‘socialist’ country’ in that we have a Labor government (after eleven years of conservative Liberal rule). A generation ago, I linked socialism with communism, but quickly understood that they are two distinct idiologies. There is no link, although many communist regimes consider themselves socialists. The father of Socialism, Karl Marx predeceased the formation of the Russian Communist party and its subsequent effects on society. At the time of his socialist manifesto, Russia was a tsarist regime and would be for many years to come. The communists picked up on socialism and adapted it to its own aims. To this day most relate socialism and communism as one and the same.
We have around 180 nationalities and cultures operating under a socialist government and with few hiccups, operating as a peaceful entity. Socialism has although, changed to more reflect our times. Liberal conservatives are more seen as supporting capitalism and over the past almost forty years, one these days is hard pressed to see any difference between a liberal conservative capitalist government and a Labor socialist capitalist government.I find it interesting that I am being “schooled” on united States government by a Swiss-Canadian. HJ, I am almost certain if you and I were to sit down and have a beer together we’d probably get along well. I’ll contend that you likely do not understand the American Patriot’s mindset and a grasp of our history enough to understand how the “baby-boomers” have witnessed our God-given Rights being at first slowly and now rapidly eroded. And this sickens me.
Possibly I’ve pissed off enough folks here by expressing my views on climate and evolution in another thread that anytime I chime in on a subject, I’m considered an enemy. For that I’m sorry.
I enjoy a good lively discussion as much as the next person, but I signed onto this site to gather information about starting into large scale model railroading.
David Hill said:
...I enjoy a good lively discussion as much as the next person, but I signed onto this site to gather information about starting into large scale model railroading.
Then perhaps you could tone down comments like “Usurper Barack Hussein Obama”. To quote (or paraphrase) a line from Cassablanca…“I am shocked, shocked to find the Presidents title besmirched”!
Where are all the posts demanding respect for the man as were generated when some reffered to the former President as anything less than Mr. President?
Welcome aboard David, hope things go well. I respect the opinion of others but when a thread starts out absurdly negative I just tune out…
Actually it is a Democratic Republic…Thank God! or is thanking God a forbidden thing now?? Pure Democracy will never happen just like pure Communism because some will have more than their fair share and all do not play nice in the sandbox regardless of what you wish. I don’t want to play in the sand box. Cats crap in it.
David Hill said:
I find it interesting that I am being “schooled” on united States government by a Swiss-Canadian. HJ, I am almost certain if you and I were to sit down and have a beer together we’d probably get along well. I’ll contend that you likely do not understand the American Patriot’s mindset and a grasp of our history enough to understand how the “baby-boomers” have witnessed our God-given Rights being at first slowly and now rapidly eroded. And this sickens me. Possibly I’ve pissed off enough folks here by expressing my views on climate and evolution in another thread that anytime I chime in on a subject, I’m considered an enemy. For that I’m sorry. I enjoy a good lively discussion as much as the next person, but I signed onto this site to gather information about starting into large scale model railroading.
David, You weren’t being “schooled” on anything, I just told you straight that your statement together with the linked video is a lot of rubbish, since republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive terms! I don’t even want to start on the rest that is mentioned, suffice to say it is on the same level as the simplistic “Republic/Democracy” argument. I thought that was clear enough even for a black and white perspective. Soooooo what would you like to know about LS model railroading? Kevin, “G - wie Gummi” coined by yours truly back in the early part of the decade. G was not a scale until the NMRA in all their “wisdom” came along and designated 1:22.5 as “G”. Märklin - yes, the Märklin who is in insolvency - designated different scales back in the early parts of the last century. 1:22.5 was/is designated as “II” (Roman 2). The “II” stuff that runs on 45mm track gauge is “IIm”, the “m” standing for one meter narrow gauge.
(http:///F-PIX/NEM010Ga.jpg)
Table based on © copyright NEM-MOROP And the Richter’s famous “Stainz” should have been running on “IIe” (32mm) track gauge since the proto runs on 760mm.
Mark Verbrugge said:Isn't that your job, now, Mark? Where are they? Or do you secretly agree with David?
Where are all the posts demanding respect for the man as were generated when some reffered(sic) to the former President as anything less than Mr. President?
Ducks, dons flame proof suit. :lol:
Steve Featherkile said:Mark Verbrugge said:Isn't that your job, now, Mark? Where are they? Or do you secretly agree with David?
Where are all the posts demanding respect for the man as were generated when some reffered(sic) to the former President as anything less than Mr. President?Ducks, dons flame proof suit. :lol:
Nah, just got tired of listening to the Democrats piss and moan about their “stolen election” for the last eight years…Now it seems we have to call the Whaaaambulance for the Republicans who are threatening to take their toys and go home.
I am amazed that when there is a change in power so many jump in to say it’s the end of America as we know it…If you love democracy you deal with a loss to your side as proof the system works, then you work to get the power back. Seems many feel democracy only works when their side wins.
M. Verbrugge said:David Hill said:
...I enjoy a good lively discussion as much as the next person, but I signed onto this site to gather information about starting into large scale model railroading.
Then perhaps you could tone down comments like “Usurper Barack Hussein Obama”. To quote (or paraphrase) a line from Cassablanca…“I am shocked, shocked to find the Presidents title besmirched”!Where are all the posts demanding respect for the man as were generated when some reffered to the former President as anything less than Mr. President?
Welcome aboard David, hope things go well. I respect the opinion of others but when a thread starts out absurdly negative I just tune out…
“Usurper” is a legal definition not a slur. But point well taken.
David Hill said:
........“Usurper” is a legal definition not a slur. But point well taken.
Yep it sure is, actually it fit Dubya very well, except it probably didn’t fit your world view at the time.
HJ what you are not understanding is under our Constitution Article II Section 1 “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
By this standard, with the evidence available, Obama is NOT eligible to be POTUS, whether you like him or not. Multiple lawsuits are pending in our Supreme Court to either have Obama produce proof of his natural born status (which he can not) or to have him removed from office (the likely outcome). When he is removed, all Executive Orders, and Bills he signed will be null and void.
To argue about Obama’s eligibility is like arguing that the Sun will not rise tomorrow. Facts are facts. If the Justices have any integrity they must, by Constitutional law, hear the lawsuits and the petitions for redress in this matter.
Tghis is a matter of “attention to details” in our laws.
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This forum is drifting so far to the right I can’t even see it on my screen anymore!
Here is one that states Obama is a citezen… http://obama.voterfactcheck.com/facts/10/343522.shtml?b1b7cb08
Here is one that says McCain may not be… http://mccain.voterfactcheck.com/facts/11/343544.shtml
I’m done with this kind of ‘rubbish’ for a while. Anyone want to talk trains…I understand Marklin may be in some financial woes…