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The 50 Ton Diesel, Part One

Well, here’s a first look. It’s not pretty, but I promise it’ll look better when I’m finished. The hood louvers are all assembled individually. Because I need to paint them, and not the spacer blocks, right now they’re just stacked up with music wire and blue taped in place from inside. When finished, they’ll be slanted downward a bit, and fixed in place, uniformly, and not cockeyed like some of them are here. The hood and cab are not yet fixed to the deck… when they are, they’ll be square. Only one wheel has been converted to the final configuration, and that bearing is the test model. The idea here is you get an idea of what I’m working on … I wasn’t going to release any photos until it was in primer, but I’ve heard from several people who knew what I was up to that they thought folks would want to see regardless… so here it is. At least you know I’m serious, now! Be gentle. This is my first project anywhere near this big. Matthew (OV)

Looking good. How did you end up doing the louvers?

REALLY nice.

Each louver is an individual piece cut from REALLY thin plastic. It has a tab on the back that’s slightly wider than the louver that has two holes in it, and keeps it from sliding out. There are individual spacer blocks several times as thick as each louver that also have the two holes … these are threaded onto music wire to form stacks (15 for the short doors, 25 for the full length ones) which are then inserted into the opening. I’m going to paint the louvers before actually doing this so that the spacers will look like … well, space, instead of a solid wall behind them … so what you see in the photo is temporary; they’re wired and taped in from behind, which is why some aren’t exactly straight.

Hey Matthew! You unveiled it! Great beginnings and you’ll be most welcome on the POC anytime. :slight_smile:

Richard,

Yeah, a little sooner than planned … but as you can see the project is still running behind. I’m still planning on a (scale) visit of state at some point … though I suspect we’ve gone late enough it won’t be till your next operating season (and hey, by then it may have a sister or two… or four!) Thanks for all the encouragement!

Matthew (OV)

Love to see a close up of the louvers - especially the behind the scenes. They really turned out nice.

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Meanwhile, contact Alan at www.thegalline.com with any questions.

Nice work!

Ric Golding said:
Nice work!
Yea Buddy........looks like the louvers are a big job by themselves ;) Ralph

Looking really good brother, did you ever think about using styrene quarter round for the louvers? Once the glue dries swat the ends with a bit of sanding to taper them into the body…

Bart, I think that was on the list … as was using clapboard siding sheets with individually applied louvers, O scale stair risers with the louvers glued in strategically … ultimately Alan (www.thegalline.com) came up with the design you see in the photos because it still gave us actual louvers, but was less (if you can imagine) labor intensive, and made it realatively easy to allign all of them (as opposed to gluing on 25 individual slats per opening!) Once assembled, you can run your thumb down the front of them and flex them all downward a bit or you can leave them wide open … A word about Alan Friedland and his company: I’ve been thinking of ways to do things with the 45 tonner from the beginning … the Army engine I’ve had in service for years has added deck plates, etc … when Dave Funk won the Durango Dan contest a couple of years back with his USATC locomotive, the wheels started really turning. I’d had the idea that I really wanted to make the 130/140 former US Gypsum engines owned by the Ashbys, but never had any luck getting drawings … and the plans for the SP#1 were readily available. What I needed was someone to help me turn my ideas into a workable model. Enter Alan. He has the unique capability to figure out how to take my ideas and turn them into great big sheets of plastic. Lots and lots of great big sheets of plastic. In fact … he turned my first question into a locomotive I haven’t even built yet, but that his boxcab reminded me of. One of these days, after the “00” unit diesel is done, I’m going to have to put it together, and then wonder where on the Slate Creek to run some 600VDC trolley wire to run it under … it’s a Westinghouse/Baldwin steeplecab, and it looks like this:

(http://www.thegalline.com/files/freight%20motor%2020.jpg)

(By the way … while you can get your own kit to make one of these, my understanding is since Alan himself is a CNJ / Standard gauge guy himself, he’‘d be willing to sell you that one since a 3’ gauge Anyox Mining Co prototype locomotive is not something you’d see on the Jersey Central!) So from there, we started work on the diesel. The one in my photos is the “00” unit … first build up … and will, at least initially be the first of five I’m building. It’s built on the chassis of a Bachmann 45 tonner, with the idea that I had a few I wanted to make something I liked a bit better from … and that others who bought them up might want to do the same. I will be posting a build log when it’s done (and hopefully Alan will be able to use some of that in the kit instructions.) The thing that’s been the best part for me is that I’m pretty good at the research, photo and plans searching, and ideas (remember, I have a bit of a background in 1:1 shortline) of how to make the unit more “real” … and Alan takes those ideas and translates them into WORKABLE build ideas. (As opposed to things that would take me forever and still not come out right!) The other side is, my modelling skills were, well, more “theoretical” than actual building skills … just ask TOC sometime about stuff I’ve broken! I’m an electrician’s kid, so I’m not too bad at wiring … but the model building side of things often reminds me of a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon wherein his imaginary fighter pilot goes down because everything in the plane is melted and glued to itself … Alan has proven to be a coach, cheering squad, and sounding board as I’ve learned how to actually build this thing as I’ve gone. So… a big thanks to Alan Friedland. From development to production to actually building this thing, he’s been indispensible … and if anyone’s interested in ordering something not on the menu, he’s the guy to talk to. I’m aware of some of his other endeavors that promise to be mind blowing when they turn up. Oh, and if folks are a bit patient, and wait for me to work the kinks out of the “00” maybe it’ll lead the way to a bunch of these little diesels floating around. More photos coming, as I make progress… Matthew (OV)

That’s looking real good! Very nice work. I too would be interested in seeing more detail of how you did the louvers. (I’m better at processing things visually.)

When matt asked for louvers I was met with a design challenge of coming up with something that was easy to assemble and would hold up handling. The diesel hood is a 2 wall construction so I had to take that into consideration. As you can see in the drawing, the laser cut parts stack on 2 rods. When glued together they should form a nice solid brick that is now slotted into the inner hood wall. For this engine we cut aprox. 440 parts to complete the louvers. Alan THE GAL LINE

(http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/virgal211/THEGALLINELOUVERASSEM3D600.jpg)

I probably shouldn’t be as excited about this little detail as I am … but I think this may be the only chime horn anyplace in 1:20.3. So, I’m pretty excited!

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/slatecreek/_forumfiles/Horn2.jpg)

Note that the flat spot on the longest bell is supposed to be there; on the prototype it allows the low profile mounted horn to clear the flat roof it’s mounted on. Also, this is based on an Leslie RS-3L but there are some obvious differences … and I’m still thrilled! The other thing is, just like the real one, you can reverse the bells so that all three point forward, or whatever… they’re threaded between the power chamber and the bell (where it goes through the mount) Matthew (OV)

Cool!

Very cool. Almost looks and sounds like it could be made operational with a bit more work. Might be a tad high pitched though!

Where did you procure this beautiful piece of work?

Funny you mention that … the guy called me about halfway through to make sure I didn’t actually want them to work! (I dunno what he would have said if I told him I did…)

I went into the LHS to get some brass and music wire for handrails, louvers, etc … got talking to the guy who runs the place about my project, and mentioned the difficulty finding the right size horns – he mentioned this guy, who’s a student at the local tech college’s machinist program. The store is a big R/C cars/planes/etc store, and this fellow makes all kinds of details for his “Rock Crawler” trucks. So, I got hold of him, got him some photos and measurements, and a week later, here we are. I’ve ordered some more horns from him, and have him working out the door handles for the hoods as well. I suspect he’ll be a valueable resource…

Matthew (OV)

Matthew (OV) said:
Funny you mention that .... the guy called me about halfway through to make sure I didn't actually want them to work! (I dunno what he would have said if I told him I did...)

I went into the LHS to get some brass and music wire for handrails, louvers, etc … got talking to the guy who runs the place about my project, and mentioned the difficulty finding the right size horns – he mentioned this guy, who’s a student at the local tech college’s machinist program. The store is a big R/C cars/planes/etc store, and this fellow makes all kinds of details for his “Rock Crawler” trucks. So, I got hold of him, got him some photos and measurements, and a week later, here we are. I’ve ordered some more horns from him, and have him working out the door handles for the hoods as well. I suspect he’ll be a valueable resource…

Matthew (OV)


Excellant work on the horns. Maybe you should see if he can get them to work, could go from there to working brakes. :slight_smile: :wink:
Seriously, though, he does sound like a valueable resource Matt

Hey Matt, you are going to great detail and it sure is looking good, as I said before. Is this source of yours willing to make these horns available to the market? I could see a use for a couple of them.