Soooo, and how do you feel about learning a completely new language? 
They do speak English there, in case you are interested…askTerry…111
Fred Mills, BSc, BS, SD said:
They do speak English there, in case you are interested…askTerry…111
Padre,
I spent two+ weeks in Wales and had a jolly good time. But then again that was after touring Scotland, spending time in Yorkshire and having a look around Liverpool. Tell me about English.
Welsh (Cymraeg) is the oldest language in Britain dating back possibly 4,000 years.
The majority of European languages, including Welsh, evolved from a language now called Indo-European, which developed into nine different language groups, one of which was Celtic. In turn, Celtic developed its own family of languages.
Good afternoon - Prynhawn da
source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/cymraeg/yriaith/tudalen/welsh.shtml
I see you missed out on the best part HJ i.e. SW England
By the way Joe, Cornish (Kernow) and Breton (NW France) are also a spoken Celtic languages. Cornwall is the nearest part of the UK to America.
Try this one Joe: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
Bob McCown said:
You have to bear in mind that Dr Beeching closed so many stations that there are many ‘homes’ on what are now working or preserved railways. (Mind you, not many have trains that will stop if you flag them down!)
When I was at school, my pal’s father was a Big Wheel at the regional LNER offices, so he got the chance to buy a station building - Constable Burton, now on the Wensleydale Railway. I went along for weekends and we had lots of fun, shooting rabbits, milking cows at the farm next door, and watching the occasional train go by.
The second pic shows the platform side of the station. That’s the upper floor of a two-storey building alongside an embankment.
Wales got me curious so I poked around for a while and found the house listing:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-45080827.html
http://struttandparker.reapitcloud.com/stprps/pdf.php?p=SBY140269
It’s got enough bedrooms on the 2nd floor to convert to an indoor layout-probably with small tunnels through stone/cement walls!
Not curious enough to find out what “Council tax: Band G” means as related to yearly taxes.
Alan Lott said:
I see you missed out on the best part HJ i.e. SW England
By the way Joe, Cornish (Kernow) and Breton (NW France) are also a spoken Celtic languages. Cornwall is the nearest part of the UK to America.
Try this one Joe: Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
I can’t even attempt to pronounce it but here is what I found it means…
Don Howard said:
Wales got me curious so I poked around for a while and found the house listing:
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-45080827.html
http://struttandparker.reapitcloud.com/stprps/pdf.php?p=SBY140269It’s got enough bedrooms on the 2nd floor to convert to an indoor layout-probably with small tunnels through stone/cement walls!
Not curious enough to find out what “Council tax: Band G” means as related to yearly taxes.
Don, it means that if you have to ask, you can’t afford it.
Uh oh.
I bet a lot of followers will be taggin’ along!
How big a truck do you have Bob???
exiling yourself in europe??
or is it leg-pulling time?
do you have got the slightest idea, what a bitch it is, to move a model railroad?
you will have years before you, of hunting the items you just need in the wrong boxes.
and Wales… old, small houses, little yards.
when you put your coaling tower into the frontyard, you’ll need a bridge, to reach the entrancedoor…
Why have a model railroad? He would have a real one to work on and enjoy outside his front yard. (http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/verschiedene/h020.gif)
Korm Kormsen said:
exiling yourself in europe??
or is it leg-pulling time?do you have got the slightest idea, what a bitch it is, to move a model railroad?
you will have years before you, of hunting the items you just need in the wrong boxes.
and Wales… old, small houses, little yards.
when you put your coaling tower into the frontyard, you’ll need a bridge, to reach the entrancedoor…
NOT Europe, but but Wales. Mention Europe to most folks in Wales and you’ll prolly get a blank stare. Or a gob-full of knuckles.
And the men are even more inclined to violence.
mrs tac is Welsh, and my grandfather - the second edition, the first and original one having been killed on the Somme, was Welsh. He spoke English, but very grudgingly, and I lived with him and my grandmother for most of the time between one and five. It was there that I learned Welsh, and improved it later on with a Welsh girlfriend [before the present mrs tac, I must stress].
She ‘forgot’ all her English as we crossed the border, and thereafter all conversation with her, her family and their couple of farm-workers was undertaken in Welsh. Great mirth was enjoyed by all.
As for the language itself, and bear with me, I did not start this conversation, Welsh is one half of the Celtic survival languages of Western Europe. The base language split into two distinct parts - Goidelic [Irish and later Scottish Gaelic/Gaelge] and Brythonic/Cymric. Cornish is Brythonic, as is the mutually intelligible Breton. The two Celtic languages are also known as Q-Celtic [for the ‘q’ sound in Maq [son of]] in Irish Gaelic and ‘P’ Celtic [for the ‘P’ sound in ‘ap’ - Welsh for son of].
As in MacSweeney and Ap Richard, better know as Pritchard. Any present day name such as Price, Preese or Probert is actually son-of Rhys, son-of-Robertand so on.
The big island of Britain was called by the Romans as Britannia Major - Greater Britain. The outpost of the Brythonic language on the North-West coast of France was called Lesser Britain - present-day Brittany.
Both present-day Celtic languages have many Latin inclusions - the Irish from the Christian Church, and the Welsh from the Roman occupation. Scottish Gaelic, by the way, is not native to the main island of Great Britian, but was brought over from the North of Ireland in the fifth and sixth centuries by Irish tribes, like the Úi Niallhe, to escape the marauding Scandinavians. They replaced the original inhabitants of what is now called Scotland, by slaughter or by inbreeding. Those original inhabitants spoke a variety of Brythonic that these days we call Pictish - the entire big island spoke a version or the other of this Brythonic language.
End of Lesson 1.
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
Alan Lott said:
Why have a model railroad? He would have a real one to work on and enjoy outside his front yard. (http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/verschiedene/h020.gif)
A very cute, small railroad - only 2’ gauge. Incidentally, the Talyllyn was the world’s first preserved railway, and the protagonist, L.T.C. Rolt, wrote an entertaining book (“Railway Adventure”) about the preservation efforts in the 1950s. A must-read before you move, Bob!
http://www.amazon.com/Railway-Adventure-L-T-Rolt/dp/0752455788
Rolt was one of a small group of amateur railwaymen who made their dream of running their own railway come true and his graphic and often amusing account of this unique achievement is a record of individual enterprise and creative effort as refreshing as it is rare. Established by Act of Parliament in 1865 and unaffected by mergers and nationalization, the Talyllyn Railway has been serving a remote and beautiful valley in the Merioneth mountains ever since. In 1950 the line threatened to close, and it was at that moment that the amateurs came to the rescue. It is now the oldest surviving railway of its kind in the world. This book will appeal strongly to all railway devotees and to lovers of the Welsh countryside, for with that descriptive power which characterized his previous books, Rolt makes the reader constantly aware of the magnificent mountain background which forms the romantic setting for his Railway Adventure. First published in 1953, this edition is completely re-typeset and illustrated.
In Wales alone -
Narrow Gauge - usually 2ft or thereabouts…
Ffestiniog Railway - home of the double-Fairlies
Welsh Highland Railway - FIVE Beyer-Garratts including K1 - the VERY first of its kind.
Corris Mountain Railway
Snowdon Mountain Railway - cog railway up Mt Snowden
Llanberis Lake Railway
Talyllyn Railway
Welshpool & Llanfair Light Railway - 2ft 6in - lots of furrin stuff - it’s 760mm as well - Austrian and Hungarian
Bala Lake Railway
Brecon Mountain Railway - think Sandy River and Rangeley Lakes 2-6-2 and 4-6-2
Great Orme Tramway - think SF cable cars up a mountainy headland
Vale of Rheidol Railway
Teifi Valley Railway
Standard Gauge -
Llangollen Railway
ALL within fifty miles of each other except for the two in South Wales.
Don’t overlook the 70+ standard gauge societies in England, either, where the P2 Society is actually building a brand-new LNER 2-8-2 Express passenger locomotive from scratch - see the Youtube movies on P2 Society.
Steam is alive and well in UK.
tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
tac Foley said:
Big Sissor Snip…
End of Lesson 1.tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
And Lesson 2?
Wow Tac! I,m English and that was one lesson that I never ever received at school in England. Mind you, I was mostly brought up in the States.
Very interesting.
It’s a pity we can’t Visa swap. ??
Have I offended anybody here with my post?
If so, I’m happy to remove it.
tac