Large Scale Central

Suburban Pacific

It was common on suburban routes in England and Australia to operate tenderless tank locomotives for passenger services. Sometime ago, I modified a Bachmann Annie chassis to a Pacific 4-6-2 configuration. This was after I had already modified the same donor chassis to a 4-4-2 Atlantic type drive. The drive sat forlornly awaiting inspiration and enthusiasm to peak.

Well, today that enthusiasm must have received an adrenalin overdose as I got started on the Pacific drive to make something out of it. Taking a Bachmann Annie ‘steel’ cab and the back half of a Heritage Express tender, I concocted a cab with attached bunker, similar to a Forney configuration. The rear side window was opened out to form a door cutout on each side of the cab.

Boiler will be made out of several hairspray cans (after the wife has emptied them of their contents). I have used this method previously. I slip several cans inside each other to give a reasonable thickness. Domes, etc., are then added. The smokebox was removed from a Heritage Express metal boiler (rescued from the garbage bin) and will be attached. Although this method does give a slightly slim looking boiler, it has turned out alright in the past. A mockup of the construction has potential.

Suburban ‘tank’ loco

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if Lynch sees this, we can prolly count on one from Philly :smiley:

cool Idea Tim

That’s pretty neat. The original 10-wheeler pilot truck now looks extremely long. If you could tighten up the spread between axles I think it would fit in better with the proportions you are creating. Or you could consider a 2-6-2, but I think you might end up with an odd empty spot between the pilot and the drivers.

Jon,
I totally agree on the pilot wheel spacing, but do find that once the cylinder chest is fitted, that the truck does not seem so long. On all my Annie bashes (more than twenty) I have never altered the length of the truck, although in many cases it was warranted. I will persevere with the bash, though at present awaiting the arrival of another new Christmas Annie, recently won on evilbay, to strip for parts to complete this bash.

Am curious to see how this progresses.

Some progress made. I chickened out and just used a Heritage/Buddy ‘L’ boiler. This lead to a little complication with smokestack not aligned with cylinder exhaust and boiler diameter less than firebox diameter (maybe extensive lagging was carried out on the firebox in the cramped cabin. As the loco was intended as a ‘double-ended’ operation, a cowcatcher was fitted to the rear. A Kadee is ‘hidden’ in there. This will be fine for me as my intention is to simply tow rolling stock and no intention to carry out operating sessions. Basically everything just positioned together to get a feel for it.

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Coming Soon to a retailer near you—Anticipate!

Though it’d make sense they’ve gotten all the parts laying around!..I do have a thing for different locos too

looking good!

Cale,
from a prototypical standpoint it has many shortcomings, like where is the ashpan for the firebox, as it would be very small, nestled between #2 & #3 drivers? However, I am taking a liking to it, aesthetically. It is definately a Heinz with its 57 varieties, with parts cannibalised from everywhere.

   Still lots of detail items to fit and maybe paint in a week or so.

Tim, they were built like that, moreso in UK than here though, cutaway side-view “blueprint” http://www.imagerail.com/Shop/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=6 And, other samples:

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www.lner.info/locos/A/a7.shtml

Here’s some more modern US jobberdos than the model, NYC and B&A 4-6-6T suburban commuter locos

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NYC 2-6-6T with Wooten firebox no less

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B&A version

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Forrest,
these are all very ‘masculine’ looking mainline engines. Mine is more a hypothetical narrow-gauge version of the elegant elevated commuter line locomotives. D&RGW did a tenderless yard switcher based on a 2-8-0 C-16, with a small bunker hung off the rear of the cab (like on the Aristo 0-4-0). If they did this, then my hypothesis is that they could have made another tenderless loco. If LGB can have a Rio Grande Forney then why not me.

Okay :slight_smile: Was just showing that the big boys squeezed fireboxes/grates/ashpans in between drivers too. With that first link to the drawing giving an idea what the arrangement down there was.

Forrest,
my apologies as I missed the first link to the cutaway diagram. Looks like narrow ashbans were in vogue.

Tim, what was the reason for abandoning the first boiler? (The one made from cans)

Ray,
there was not really a problem with using the hairspray cans, but by using the Heritage boiler, I solved the mounting of the footboards. Using the can idea is achievable (I have done it before) but it takes a lot longer to finish the project.

“Forney” almost completed, runs perfectly. I summised that as the D&RGW had built a 2-8-0 tenderless yard switcher, then there existed the opportunity for another tenderless locomotive.

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Very Nice! Prototypical or not, Nice Indeed!

Merry Christmas!

cale

Cale,
it is actually Christmas Day now, here in Australia (just after midnight), so I will give it a Chrissy workout on the railroad (a present for myself).

Yes, Chrissy, I am familiar…I just finished the Marsden novel series Tomorrow…

Enjoy Friend, Merry Chrissy!