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Sierra, end of the line

Walk towards the light! QSI/AIRWIRE The Regal

Will it be called the Walsham Super socket ?

TonyWalsham said:
Hi Barry.

I’m waiting too.
It isn’t me that will be producing it.
I am merely helping with installation (as in plug and socket) specs to make it truly Plug’n’Play.
Well, it will be PnP with RCS at least.

I had been waiting for the LS Tsunami for more than a couple years… thought the Quasinami was the precursor, but no… then the HO diesel was holding things up, then it was moving to a new building, then stopping production for the new pick and place system, then the pick and place system did not help anything…

I guess there are internal problems, and my faith in SoundTraxx has been dashed… luckily I do use DCC and that’s where everything is going, and Tony pushed out the QSI LS system, and it works.

I think the writing is on the walls, manufacturers have to make an all-in-one unit to try to sell to everyone…

Also, the “step up” of an HO decoder to LS is output transistors. Building a new sound unit from scratch just for large scale is probably never going to happen again.

Well, with tight $$, they have to go for the big win…

That leaves the specific LS battery market as a niche when you compare it to DCC as a whole, and again, take your HO unit, add bigger transistors and you have a LS unit.

Of course you have “stuff” battery people do not want, but not really hardware wise, only functions… and the recurring cost is the hardware, have to have a microprocessor anyway, so add in all the DCC stuff and kill two birds with one stone.

Really cannot blame the manufacturers, they cannot build JUST LS soundboards non DCC.

Regards, Greg

Jerry Hansen said:
Walk towards the light! QSI/AIRWIRE The Regal
Whut the heck is a "Regal"?

Hey Greg.

Think laterally.
There are other ways to do it that could be all things to all people.
As long as the consumer doesn’t have to actually figure out which wire goes where and merely plugs it in, they will have a viable choice. Especially if the cost is less than the competition, with equal, if not better performance.

As the Bachmann would say: “Anticipate”.
Won’t be too much longer.

That would be ME!! I am the Regal Hee hee hee

So Dave, what is the solution?

Hmm, guess that means I shoulda sent my two systems in for repair a bit earlier… Ah well. Have 2-year-old daughter and cookie sheet. And she knows how to blow into her train whistle, too, so I’m all set. :wink:

Later,

K

Kevin Strong said:
Hmm, guess that means I shoulda sent my two systems in for repair a bit earlier... Ah well. Have 2-year-old daughter and cookie sheet. And she knows how to blow into her train whistle, too, so I'm all set. ;)

Later,

K


And then there’s us antediluvian know-nothings who don’t care about chuffs, howls and growls (provided it’s not something amiss in the mech) and hope never to see a smoke effect. :wink:

I’m with you, Chris. I don’t do NOISE either.

I love noise ,Whoo Whoo ! Drives my goofy neighbor nuts

TonyWalsham said:
Hi Barry.

I’m waiting too.
It isn’t me that will be producing it.
I am merely helping with installation (as in plug and socket) specs to make it truly Plug’n’Play.
Well, it will be PnP with RCS at least.


At least with Tony, the “true secular progressive”, you know it won’t be Plug’n’Pray!!!

Ray Dunakin said:
That bites. I had planned to go with Sierra when I could afford to add sound to my locos.

What’s left? Phoenix? I can’t find out much about that one due to their sucky website.


Hey Ray,
what is wrong with that web page? If i look at it, everything is there. I have different Phoenix sound, and in the past i had some problems with the newer P5, but then again, service folks do replay to mails, and are helpful.
think global Pius

http://www.phoenixsound.com/products/products.html

Hmm, I guess I hadn’t tried their site since I got the new computer. I had real problems with it on my old computer. Their site works ok on this one.

However, it looks like their sound cards require interface with a PC. Is that correct?

That is correct.
You need to purchase an additional programming kit, load it on your computer, and set your sound system up.

I won’t tell you the rest.

Sierra’s systems are OK with me.
I bought a system from Dave and he directed my successful installation in a USA GP.
Sierra stopping production is unfortunate.
Is Phoenix facing a similar fate?

Wendell

Hopefully Silvergate might pick up the line for their forthcoming engines!!

Lets wait till next week and see what happens!

:slight_smile:

Maybe the same ones who sit around the table after dinner assembling Hillmans can also assemble Sierras…

Ray Dunakin said:
Hmm, I guess I hadn't tried their site since I got the new computer. I had real problems with it on my old computer. Their site works ok on this one.

However, it looks like their sound cards require interface with a PC. Is that correct?


Only if you want to change the factory settings.
Le’see, put in prolly 15 P-5’s right out of the box this year alone.

Haven’t used my PC interface yet.

jb

Ray Dunakin said:
Hmm, I guess I hadn't tried their site since I got the new computer. I had real problems with it on my old computer. Their site works ok on this one.

However, it looks like their sound cards require interface with a PC. Is that correct?


Hi Folks,
unlike others stated, you do not need to purchase the computer interface. Phoenix sound and some dealers will download the sound to your spec.
i have four phoenix sound cards, and no computer interface, and it works just fine. Since i use the wheel synchronized sound for my European steamers, the phoenix sound is a better choice. i like the rather big choice of different engine sounds which they offer. ( by the way the sound does work in any configuration, such as Analog or DCC, wheel synchronized or motor power for chuff speed, some sound portions like the bell can be switched on or off.
In the past i had a few problems when i run several engines with sound, my Digitrax Command station and booster went to quick in the emergency shut down, due to a false short detection. be aware that a sound board needs as much current as a additional engine would need.
What i like most, is that unlike Digitrax, the service people of phoenix sound care about problems customers have. When ever i approached Phoenix sound with a question, i got a answer, and unlike others, the answer is geared to help, and not simply to get the problem of their desk. So far i had just two reps of a supplier which visited my layout, Rene Wilfer from Piko, and two service engineers of Phoenix sound. If large scale suppliers visit customer layouts, it means to me that they really care.

think global Pius