Anyone else get the news from Aristo???
http://www.aristocraft.com/CRE57000SD-REVOLUTION-24-GHZ-SET-WGeneric-Diesel-Sound_p_4299.html
Diesel sound equipped Revolution receivers are here!
I was only considering steam sounds, but now I remember I have a Spectrum 44-tonner that might have a use for one of these. Still waiting with high hopes for the steam sounds to follow soon!
And I have to addā¦I know itās generic sound but that price is a great buy. Sound and control for $105.00. Sadly it makes my current group of revo receivers about worthless.
Mark V said:Probably not. I'm not using Revo, but haven't I heard that receivers have been hard to get? Not everyone wants sound.
Sound and control for $105.00. Sadly it makes my current group of revo receivers about worthless.
RLD Hobbies has them for $89ā¦ so your old ones are probably worth 30 to 40 bucks.
Sell them now while people still want them and you might get a bit more, since for people who donāt want sound are forced to take a 50% price increase.
Yeah, for people who are content with generic sounds it is a dealā¦ of course if you run multiple locos, all your locos will sound identical.
Greg
Greg Elmassian said:Yep, that sounds about right. I only have two that are not being used as trackside receivers; I will likely use them for battery cars.
RLD Hobbies has them for $89... so your old ones are probably worth 30 to 40 bucks...Greg
If I read the Aristo forums correctly, future receivers will only be available with sound. For me, the generic sound is fine. I have several LGB sound equipped locoās now and usually run them with sound off anyway. More for visitors than myself.
Greg Elmassian said:
RLD Hobbies has them for $89... so your old ones are probably worth 30 to 40 bucks.Sell them now while people still want them and you might get a bit more, since for people who donāt want sound are forced to take a 50% price increase.
Yeah, for people who are content with generic sounds it is a dealā¦ of course if you run multiple locos, all your locos will sound identical.
Greg
How about people that run steam engines? I donāt think they would want one of these things, even if it does have a off switch. Hopefully this is just a first step. I must say, I thnk it is a strange first step.
I wouldnāt want an entire railroad where everything has the exact same sound (heck, Iām so OC about it that I refuse to have two locos with the same whistle), but ya gotta start someplace, and Aristoās product line is predominantly diesel. I suspect weāll see the library expanded over time. Iāll be curious to see how these boards compare to the old Sierra boards. If I could eliminate those and the need for that interface board, it would be nice.
Itās curious that theyāre dropping the non-sound boards, but if the price increase isnāt that much over what we were paying (looks to be about $20 - $30 increase) itās not intolerable. If I eliminate buying just one Phoenix board, Iāve offset the cost increase an additional 8 - 10 receivers.
And to those who think your non-sound receivers are now only worth $30, let me know if you take Pay-Pal. 
Later,
K
Anyone who wants to get rid of the regular Revo receivers just let me know. I know of a few people including me who would buy them at a good price. I have several locomotives with Phoenix sound that need receivers so I can run them.
I think what Aristo Craft is doing is going to change the way people look at putting battery and sound together in their locomotives. Not everyone out there cares if their locomotive has the prototypical sound, just like the original LGB sound units. They just want sound.
As for your original Revo controllers; you just send them back to Aristo Craft and they update the software and youāre good to go.
Greg Elmassian said:
RLD Hobbies has them for $89... so your old ones are probably worth 30 to 40 bucks.Sell them now while people still want them and you might get a bit more, since for people who donāt want sound are forced to take a 50% price increase.
Yeah, for people who are content with generic sounds it is a dealā¦ of course if you run multiple locos, all your locos will sound identical.
Greg
The sound board is a 50% increaseā¦ that is heftyā¦ if you were a non-sound guy outfitting a number of locos, and were spending $1,000, then spending $1,500 instead would not make you happy.
I have a youtube of the Steam one, itās on my youtube siteā¦ gregeusa ā¦
Itās not bad, the prototype distorted a lot at high volumes, but it was a prototypeā¦ so Iāll wait to add more comments until itās released.
I did notice that the diesel had notching and brake squealā¦ so not too badā¦ the horn is good, but it seems there is only one hornā¦
Greg
Greg, where were you seeing the non-sound boards for $60? I teased you about buying used ones for $30āIād be tickled pink to buy them new for $60! Most places had them for between $80 - $90 for the single receiver, and $440ish for the 6-pack. The best I ever got was at a convention for $75. Reindeer Pass has both the non-sound and sound versions listed on their site, with only a $10 difference between the two boards. ($80 vs. $90).
Later,
K
The street price was $60 each beforeā¦ since they are out of them everywhere it is a moot point.
Are you arguing because I stated a 50% price increase?
Not worth the research to make this pointā¦
If you are really interested in the real information, then use the wayback machineā¦ if not, then of course Iām wasting my time typing
List price was $104 and sound version list price is $175 from the Aristo siteā¦ Aristo now sells 40% offā¦
Thatās more than a 50% price increase on the list priceā¦
Anything wrong with those numbers or my math?
Greg
ā¦and if they donāt like the sound system they are stuck with it, or they can spend the extra for something better.
Speaking of which, does anyone know if the new sound REVO retains the external sound trigger capability?
Yes, the 7-wire accessory harness is still included for activating other sound boards.
Generic sound? You gotta be kidding! As if all the different diesels from the different builders had all the same engine? Dear oh, dear, if I consider how many different sound projects for specific engines types are offered for DCC decoders Iām really scratching my head.
But good for them if they get away with this approach. 
Thanks Paul.
Did I read it correctly that they no longer include the Non PnP board?
If so you have a 50% price increase and still need to pay extra to install the new REVO in a non PnP loco.
Clever marketing eh??
Let me seeā¦I could equip my diesels with a sound and control system for less than $100.00 eachā¦Or I could install a Phoenix system for $200.00+ and still have to spend another $70-$100 for a control system. Hmmmā¦
I donāt think there is a lot of "head-scratchingā here. Some people are going to want sound; some will want the Royal Philharmonic. Just as some will be satisfied with a Bachmann Annie, others require an Aster Shay.
I really donāt think there is anything to āget awayā with either. They are offering a decent product at a very good price. It appears they are flying off the shelves like the last revision did. I donāt think anyone is thinking they are buying a Phoenix for under a hundred bucks.
TonyWalsham said:Tony, As far as I know, the Non PnP board has always had to be purchased seperately.
Thanks Paul. Did I read it correctly that they no longer include the Non PnP board? If so you have a 50% price increase and still need to pay extra to install the new REVO in a non PnP loco. Clever marketing eh??
As for the Genaric diesel soundā¦Iāve been told different sound files will be available to download in the future.
Weāll just have to wait and see
Ralph
Yes you could buy a Phoenix for $200+ and spend another 70-100 bucks. If you were gullible enough you could get someone to sell you a system for $1,000 !
Or you could buy a QSI, Zimo, or ESU or Massoth that has the control system and superior sound functionality, including sound that varies according to the load, the real load, not just the voltage to the motor.
That would cost you $200.
So let me see, I can buy a pretty advanced control system with generic sound for about $100ā¦ I could buy a very advanced control system with state of the art sound for $200ā¦
I do have a choice, both in price and features.
The price has definitely gone up on the Aristo but you get more so itās a good deal. I was not aware you got the very cool socket with the old Revolution, I thought you only got the āhalf socketā, and I would expect that you get that with the sound unit.
I think the āpinch pointā will be people who have to use 2 boards in their system, i.e. control and soundā¦ that market is going away, itās just too expensive to make 2 separate boards, each with itās own microprocessor.
Strange that Aristo is not going to sell the non-sound unit, but maybe good stragety, they will make more money this way, and only carry one model instead of 2.
Greg
Mark V said:
Let me see...I could equip my diesels with a sound and control system for less than $100.00 each...Or I could install a Phoenix system for $200.00+ and still have to spend another $70-$100 for a control system. Hmmm....I donāt think there is a lot of "head-scratchingā here. Some people are going to want sound; some will want the Royal Philharmonic. Just as some will be satisfied with a Bachmann Annie, others require an Aster Shay.
I really donāt think there is anything to āget awayā with either. They are offering a decent product at a very good price. It appears they are flying off the shelves like the last revision did. I donāt think anyone is thinking they are buying a Phoenix for under a hundred bucks.