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Our NV-CO-MD trip

Hi guys,

I’ve been sort of out of service for the last 3 weeks, on a lengthy trip. First to Carson NV, for the annual V&T conference. Was a blast, as usual; and I was able to give my talk on the Sutro Railways to the V&T crowd, and also a group of folks at Sutro Tunnel.

Then I flew from Reno to Denver, while Linda flew from Baltimore to Denver, and we commenced our main 40th anny bucket list trip which, strangely enough, involved railroady stuff sometimes. I’ll focus on that.

While in Denver, we were able to meet up with two of my sisters and one BIL, and we had a great time doing Denver… the highlight being the Georgetown Loop RR…

… and Georgetown itself. What a neat western town. And yes, I’m often using my wife for scaling purposes. She’s 5’4".

Next railroady thing was the Forney Transportation Museum, the main artifact (for me) was the tiny Forney loco as the first exhibit. It was used on an elevated railway back east.

As I posted earlier on, we saw the Big Boy there. It still amazes me that they were able to get that sucker into this relatively small building.

We then spent a week at Estes Park (a popular town in the Rocky Mountains), with my sisters and us each having a cabin, and going for walks and meals as we felt like it.

Visited the Stanley Hotel there, built by the “Stanley Steamer” Stanley, and local of “The Shining.” It was decrepit and about to be demolished at the time of that shooting; but Stephen King bought and renovated it. The hotel is now uber poshy pricey. Which, though we’d never afford it, is a cool restoration story.


They had fair prices for good beer at the bar. But their high end bourbon flight of 5 2-ounce shots was $550!!! I’m glad I’m not into that hobby, haha!!

Our family had a last dinner bash, but beforehand we pulled over to see some elk. Who kinda trapped our car for a bit…

OK, back to railroady stuff. After EP, we went back to Denver and the CO RR museum. Awesomeness! I can only post a tiny bit, but here goes.

Their garden railroad:



A couple of Westside shays,

… two geese,


… a weird “test weight car”,

… and a cattle car that seems to be the proto of one I have:

All kinds of stuff. Here’s a quick pano of the turntable area.

https://youtube.com/shorts/WEHEUJewPTc

The rotary is so cool…

And they have their flanger. This was the main artifact I wanted to see, since I put so much time into researching and building a model of the earlier V&T’s version. The two are very similar.

We had time that day to visit the Coors plant, very near the RR museum. A lot of fun. The factory is vast, this being only a “small” section.

We didn’t have the required tickets for the plant tour (booked a month in advance, sheesh) but we were able to buy into the “Hospitality Lounge”, which worked just as well.


I don’t care for Coors, but I like some of their other brands (which I didn’t know were theirs), like Blue Moon and Lillian’s Red. And a bunch of others. Even a bourbon, but it’s only made and sold in KY. Devon, Dan, maybe check that out??

After that, we headed to the Denver Union Station for our epic Amtrak trip back home to MD.

We’ve been saving for this bucket-list 2-nighter 1st class bedroom trip, and had high expectations.

Here beginneth the lessons.

As we learned, longer Amtrak trains (like, all the big routes) can be delayed. Though legally they have the right of way before freight trains, the fact is that they travel over commercial tracks (UP, BNSF, CSX, etc.), and the freight trains come first.

So, our 7:00pm departure from Denver, on the California Zephyr, east to Chicago, was delayed by 5.5 hours. Kids were crying; I and others were griping; but it was interesting that all the Amish adults and children (about 40 folks all told) were fine, even at 11:00 pm, after all that waiting.

Finally got on board, and waited for our room to be prepped.

Rolled along the prairie the next day, and saw some weird cars, what are these?

My favorite portion of the ride was crossing the Mississippi River, over this long steel bridge with its lift section at the front.

We made it to Chicago, but of course missed our 2nd train to DC. But Amtrak did their best to make it up, with food vouchers, free hotel, shuttle to and from said hotel, and $350 travel voucher for a next trip as an apology. Good on them.

We therefore had extra time in Chicago, and walked from their Union Station to the lake area. Cold, but a nice walk. After that, we had fun riding the “L” through downtown. My phone battery totally died, and I regret not having taken pix of the wonderful iron bridgework that holds up the L’s. But Linda took this shot for me:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FoVDvS57FYg?feature=share

We then came back to the Chicago Union Station (I guess they’re all called that?) and, thankfully got on board for a 7pm departure, with the room we’d paid for (though a day later — so, subject to availability, but it worked out).

We were happy to be on board, in the proper room, though a day late.

The next day (yesterday), Amtrak took us through the Appalachians, and here’s a few vids from the car-side view.

https://youtube.com/shorts/jELTDGQSzJg
https://youtube.com/shorts/wPFk2jzaWgQ
https://youtube.com/shorts/6UWeHJ8pIe0

We passed Harper’s Ferry, and here’s a shot to the other RR bridge.

Washington DC’s Union Station “great hall” is as spectacular as the others.

We snagged our luggage, and waited there a couple of hours.

Then took the regional to BWI station, our home turf. Wow, the train ran so much faster on this “high speed” line.

Well, that’s about it.

Cliff

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Thanks Cliff;

The Appalachian segments reminded me of our (relatively) short trip to Alexandria, VA to visit our daughter, Julie. First time I’ve ever been cold on a passenger trail. The business class car had an ultra hyper-active air conditioning system. Fortunately, the crew was able to turn the blower off. When one tends to fire and run steam locomotives, trains are HOT, not cold.

Best, David Meashey

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I miss the happenings in my home town of Carson City, Nevada. I don’t miss the crowds so much, but miss the open desert and freedom to roam. Thanks for the pictures :slight_smile:
Deneh

Thanks Bruce.

You know what, my drive across NV from Reno to Ely a couple years ago was so profound, I can’t quite describe it. But heck, I’ll try.

Nevada is laced, north to south, with numerous mountain ranges. And as you go west-east, or vice versa, you cross them.

As you know, Highway 50 here is called “The Loneliest Road in America.”

https://travelnevada.com/road-trips/loneliest-road-in-america/

It took 8 hours to drive from Reno to Ely, and I had an absolute blast. I love the high desert. But each valley, between all those ridges, had a different character. Colors, textures, each valley was different.

I hope to see it again sometime.

C

On Highway

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Great blog Cliff.

Did you get much time in the vista dome car and did you sit facing forward?

Can’t wait for the podcast!

Hi, Cliffie. To answer your question about the odd freight cars: they are coil steel cars. We have a company that manufactures cabinets for test equipment. They get regular deliveries every week. They are within walking distance, so I like to watch them drill the cars.

Building a test weight car like this has been on my to-do list forever…

Thanks Bill. Yes, I did time in that car, it was great seeing scenery all around. It was a popular seating place, and got a little noisy sometimes, so I was just as happy sitting on our bedroom – which had seats facing each way.

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Hi Lou, good to know. Jerry B. said the same. At first I thought the “tanks” ended near the centerline, but after seeing the pics again now I see that a big spool would indeed fit. Thanks.

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Interesting. How were they used? Solid iron, right?

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Probably, or steel filled with concrete. Randy Mower has a 3d model that Im thinking of buying.

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Scale test cars are used to certify scales. They don’t have any airbrakes so they get tacked to the back of any train. They aren’t as common as they used to be, but there’s still a handful of them floating around. Mainly used now to calibrate customer scale (the few that have them) and the weigh in motion scales that are typically seen around hump yards. Most hump yards have a weigh in motion scale as the cars go over the hump.

The inaccurate detail on model coil cars is that the covers match the road name on the car. STEEL MILLS DON’T CARE! All they care about is that the coils are covered. The coil cars coming over the hump in Bellevue, OH had a rainbow of covers. If one cover matched the road name of the car, it was a marvelous exception to the usual system.

Regards, David Meashey

It’s actually called a Sightseer Lounge so technically YES they are sitting facing forward into the glass. However if you wanna mix it up a bit they could always trade seats with the folks on the other side of the car facing forward and catch the ride from a different eye.

I can’t help myself …Awww this is special !
:rooster:

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Along the same lines with the steel coil rolls.
When we had the Sheet Metal shop we had a “coil line” that feed the steel rolls through the shear to be cut to size. We only had the 4 basic gauges 26, 24, 22, and 20 gauge on the coil line everything else we bought as, 4 X 10 foot sheet stock.

The coils were delivered by truck rather than rail and we could only handle rolls up to 7000 pounds because that maxed our fork lift. It was a real circus when we would get a roll that went 7500-8000 pounds.
Picture this, the forklift with the coil on the 2 forks set close together and a 10 foot by 3 inch pipe stuck in the radiator guard at the back of the lift with 3-4 guys hanging on the end of the pipe trying to keep the rear wheels on the ground, ahhh, the good ol’ days. :smiley:

Bet OSHA liked that, but then again we used to stand on loose plywood sheets to end load them in a truck using 4’ forks

And that would make a viral video short these days! I have a few forklift stories myself, but I’ll never admit to them.

Same. Working in a lumber yard and driving a Pettibone offroad fork lift. I’m just glad there were no phone cameras everywhere like there are now.