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Open house gremlins

A new friend visiting from Australia was over yesterday to check out my trains and wouldn’t you know it the Gremlins heard about this special showing and I had all kinds of problems. You guys know what I mean when you are all by yourself you can run trains for hours without a glitch but then a visitor comes over and derailments abound with cars flying off the track around every other curve, cars uncoupling and add in dead spots and slow spots and it gets embarrassing quick? I even had a fuse in the TE blow for no apparent reason.
Greg has a layout at home so he understood and we both had a laugh at the gremlins.
At least no permanant damage was done to any of the equipment. Though one of my hoppers hung precariously off the tall trestle.

Do you have any tales of woe when it comes to open houses? I bet you do.

Not often. With track screwed down and no track power issues ever, several key failure points are eliminated.

We get the occasional squirrel damage to ground throws.

Worst was last opperating session…something big (may have been a deer) got up into a raised corner and really did some damage to the ties for about 30 inches. Fixed it with a track warrant…trains had to work around me.

Usually it’s Austin failing to return switches to white dot…

TOC

Curmudgeon mcneely said:

Not often. With track screwed down and no track power issues ever, several key failure points are eliminated.

We get the occasional squirrel damage to ground throws.

Worst was last opperating session…something big (may have been a deer) got up into a raised corner and really did some damage to the ties for about 30 inches. Fixed it with a track warrant…trains had to work around me.

Usually it’s Austin failing to return switches to white dot…

TOC

I was told that was a shooting offence. :wink:

Shh.

I think Murphy’s Law of Model Trains is, “The odds of something going wrong increase exponentially with the number of visitors.” :slight_smile:

The one real issue I have is derailments on switches. By only running in one direction I can usually run for at least a couple hours without a derailment, but then eventually the loco hits a switch just right and off it goes.

Going the other direction, or switching over to certain sidings, I get a lot more derailments. I’m still trying to solve that.

I don’t care that much about realistic operations but it would be nice to run trains the other direction sometimes.

Did you check out one of the Garden Railways 1999 issues featuring Gregs RR?

He does a great job of bashing and runs trains with car remotes.

Hi Dan.
Greg was telling me about his RR in GR as I was pointing out several builds and ideas that I have had published in there. My issues only go back to 05. I have seen several of his videos from his RR and he certainly has a clever approach to getting it done. Greg is a smart guy. Seeing his gorgeous Garratts I got bit and now I plan on building one this Winter.

I ran 2 trains late yesterday for a few hours (by myself) and wouldn’t you know it I didn’t have any problems. I guess the Gremlins left with Greg.

Todd Haskins said:

I ran 2 trains late yesterday for a few hours (by myself) and wouldn’t you know it I didn’t have any problems. I guess the Gremlins left with Greg.

I promise to take the gremlins back to Oz with me.

T’was a great day, and I didn’t notice any more glitches than I always have at home. Thanks Todd

Dan Pierce said:

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…He does a great job of bashing and runs trains with car remotes…

He sure does, but I have my own story about using car remotes. They have an inbuilt battery, y’know? Had some people around a few weeks ago - trains out, nothing would make the rc locos run. Loco batteries at full charge, but no joy (had fun with switch/pot controlled locos though). As soon as they left and I had time to think about it, the Eureka moment. Changed the remote batteries (had one spare) and the locos ran fine. Talk about feeling a fool, but another lesson learned and I now have a sufficient stock of spare remote batteries on hand, and am thinking about a PM routine which changes them annually.

Steve

Steve Pearson said:

Dan Pierce said:

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…He does a great job of bashing and runs trains with car remotes…

He sure does, but I have my own story about using car remotes. They have an inbuilt battery, y’know? Had some people around a few weeks ago - trains out, nothing would make the rc locos run. Loco batteries at full charge, but no joy (had fun with switch/pot controlled locos though). As soon as they left and I had time to think about it, the Eureka moment. Changed the remote batteries (had one spare) and the locos ran fine. Talk about feeling a fool, but another lesson learned and I now have a sufficient stock of spare remote batteries on hand, and am thinking about a PM routine which changes them annually.

Steve

I have learned that lesson too - I always take spare Tx battery and small screwdriver whenever I take a loco to visit.

I have one keyfob type transmitter that will work in my left hand but not in my right, when the battery is low. How about that for a sneaky low battery alarm?

I do keep a ‘roster’ of all my batteries both locos and transmitters, to keep track of when they were last charged or replaced.

And I have to admit I have replaced all my ‘car’ type RC with 2.4 GHz aircraft type controllers (from Hobbyking).

I have had a lot of TE problems but I think switching to 2.4 wouldn’t help. We are on approach to two large airports (Ontario and L.A.) with fly overs from Edwards AFB.

I get “gremlins” whether I have visitors or not…:wink:

Ken Brunt said:

I get “gremlins” whether I have visitors or not…:wink:

And then he brings them here!

:slight_smile:

Bruce Chandler said:

Ken Brunt said:

I get “gremlins” whether I have visitors or not…:wink:

And then he brings them here!

:slight_smile:

Change a scenery…:wink:

Well, Todd now that you mention it, we had the gremlins visit our open house a few weeks ago here in Buffalo. Everything ran flawlessly the day before. I ran the track cleaner on all three loops. All the rail tops were shiny and clean. Downtown Anitaville never looked better. Of course it rained like crazy the night before and I spent most of the morning straightening things up and spraying off the mud splatter from all the buildings. Uh oh. It was getting late. Better get some trains on the tracks. Time was tight, so how could I have noticed that somehow (gremlins, I’ll bet) the clearance between two opposing tracks near a curve got closer than they should have been (I could 'Blame It on The Rain" Millie Vanilli). Got everything ready just as people started to arrive. Trains ran great for quite a while. Then… You guessed it. The two opposing trains passed in just the right place at just the right time, and… Oh, $#!t%&#$. The side rod of my Mikado was just close enough to hook the railing of my lead FA unit. Ripped and shredded the railing. Derailed the lead engine. Then the other 2 F units pushed the now derailed lead unit down the track, miraculously over the truss bridge (not into the pond) and sent it over the side of the ravine. Other than the broken railing, the FA suffered no other damage- not even a scratch! (Take note Aristo haters, LOL). Of course all this happened at the peak of the open house, when everyone was standing right there. A Kodak moment? Maybe. Last I heard the gremlins were heading east towards Massachusetts. I see they made it there safely.

-Kevin.

Not being with the Botanic anymore, I don’t experience them as often, but even I had a gremlin week before last.

Being a rabid member of the battery “dark side,” I often can run on the modular layout when the other guys can’t.

But last weekend, my Susquehana box car WOULD NOT stay on the track. I labeled it “pernicious,” and set it aside. I found one axle was set pretty wide. Try it again at Marty’s.

Oh, the week before, something funny happened:

Madam Chesapeake Mallet stopped on the south side of the layout. She had been running for a couple hours, so I figured it was battery. When I put a fresh battery in (none of mine are “new”), she refused to go. Now what? Red led is on. Green led blinks when I push a button. Those are good signs. I backed up. I went forward, but she slammed to a sudden stop. Now what’s that all about? I went to back up, but nothing. No response. I looked inside the tender again. Red LED is on, but green LED doesn’t blink when I push a button. Well, now what the? So I took the remote apart and changed the batteries. No change. I was contemplating the rather arduous task of pulling her off the track when I noticed something: The little LED that blinks red on the top of the remote is blinking green. Oh. I must have bumped the channel button. Back on ch 7. Again, she backs up. Going forward, she slams to a sudden stop.

There’s a little freight station with 1 screw that holds it to the layout. Somebody had turned it a little and the right front cylinder was hitting the platform. You know, a mallet is 3ft too wide across the front cylinders. “Sorry 'bout the corner of your platform there, Bill. Madam Mallet took a bite out of it.”

“Tom, could you come look at my…”

“I think I’ve goofed up enough stuff for a few minutes. How 'bout later?”

…grinning…

The Gremlins were defiantly visiting your RR’s Tom and Dieseldude! That must have been a spectacular crash DieselD!
The Gremlins are still here in Eastern Ma. and may have taken up residence. Over the weekend I was making a movie and had more trouble with dead spots and derailments. I had one switch in particular where the engine stopped dead on but not everytime. One time the NW2 is was sitting dead on the switch so I grabbed my tester expecting to find a dead spot on the switch. Occasionally one of the connector tabs can come loose on the LGB switches but no each track including the points had the required volts with no drop??
It might have been dirty loco wheels which did need cleaning but I bet it was the Gremlins.

I might hang a bell off a train like the Harley guys do off their bikes and send it around to scare them away.

There is a flaw or two in every RR. They just wait to show up, when it matters most.

Gremlins?

Hire them!