Square and full of gas? Heheheheheheh
Nico Corbo said:
I thought this forum was about trains, and not how to run a business 101.
It is easy to judge from behind a keyboard, if running a company is so easy, why don't each of you start your own train company's.
I get Garden Railways as well, the magazine is obviously on a decline as it is more like a pamphlet than a magazine.
Well....this has been discussed for what, six weeks, and you're just now seeing it?
It's about trains, and how not to run a business 101.
Or, since we are subject to Polkspeak, trying to figure out just what is going on.
Easy to judge from behind a keyboard...yeah, I think you just proved that.
GR is shrinking due to loss of advertisers and loss of quality contributors.
Things happen sometimes that cause contributors to go away....unfortunately, we can't talk about those things here on this forum.
Oh...and several of us on this very forum have or have had successful train related businesses...and didn't need any Sugar Daddys.
I'm sorry if you have had a stressful day....and sorry, too, if reality causes more stress.
Mister Golding has it right....go run some trains.
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Since everyone here seems full of negative thoughts; I just plugged myself into the negaive pole on my old DC power pack, and decided to contribute this thought…: if Aristo is on decline, in some people’s thoughts; maybe this could be extended to Garden Railroad Magazine, itself…last time I bought one; I saw little to promote the idea of purchasing another, let alone a subscription. Now someone has noted, it seems, the same idea…how long should we speculate it will last…or am I getting too deep into the doom and gloom…!!!
I am looking seriously at having the local newsstand save me a copy of the British Garden Railways Magazine. Every copy of it that I see, inspires me greatly.
I used to get that Brit version. I remember the last one I ever bought. About the time the Brits were having a cow, man, over NiCads…and an article on controlling weeds along your fenceline in the garden with crankcase drippings…dumping old used motor oil on the ground…
Fun days, those were.
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Nico Corbo said:
I thought this forum was about trains, and not how to run a business 101. I have no control over what any company does or says, I trust people about as far as I can throw them, unless I truly know them. If I was a newcomer and kept reading these negative posts, why the hell would I want to get involved in large scale. It is easy to judge from behind a keyboard, if running a company is so easy, why don’t each of you start your own train company’s. I get Garden Railways as well, the magazine is obviously on a decline as it is more like a pamphlet than a magazine. Maybe that is the reason for no add? Sorry I have had a stressful day, Nico
I hear ya’ Nico !
IMHO GR is back to about the size it was when Mark was running it on his own with no discount advertising allowed. TrainWolrd ran ads but with no pricing.
After Kalmbach took it over the mag exploded in size purely with advertising.
Yes…Ric has it very much in hand, in a positive way…and today I did operate the railroad. Operation, even a small operation brings life into a sunny day.
I needed a heavier locomotive up at the West end of the railroad, and the old Mogul needed some shop time. So; a crew fired up number 4, a Connie. She hadn’t been under steam for quite some time, and needed a test run, along for the need of a heavier locomotive in Firgrove.
After firing it up, the loco was backed down onto a van, and off she went. This is one of two Connies on the pike. #5 had a new brass gear put in her, and runs well. #4 is waiting for one, but just seems to keep running, when called on. She made it to Firgrove, and fits nicely in the new engine shed there…it is the first time a Connie has been shedded there, so it was good to see she fitted in well.
The old Mogul managed to get the crew and the van back to Craigleigh safely, and after her fire was dropped, was moved into the shop for much needed maintenance, and a major lubrication. I can’t remember doing any lubing of her in over 10 years…she is one of the original LGB Moguls…shipped to me from Germany, way back before there was one here in North America. It still has the original Gelcells in it from when the old Aristo 27Mh on-boards came out…and they still hold a full charge. The loco has been running a full operation every Saturday…even during the Standard Gauge ops, when an extra loco is needed.
So…there…a few positive thoughts and reports…does that help everyone to enjoy their after-dinner drinks…I hope so.
The last few GRs have been thinner but the actually train content is about the same, but there ARE new advertisers just no more big discounters save Trainworld.
BTW I can remember not so long ago people here and there were gatormouthing that there was too much advertising in GR.
Karma?
Karma. Be very careful what you ask for…you might just get it.
TOC,
I have seen you complaining for six weeks and one grows weary of the constant end of g scale life as we know it.
Red box brigade, rose colored glasses, I think you should go run some trains and spend less time typing.
This forum will be real informative when there is three of you left bitching to each other.
Sorry to all those who have to keep reading this.
When people keep leaving the forum, it should be some indication it is time to stop.
Keep it up, Nico!
We’ve been here before.
For me, it’s highly informative.
Always looking for more to understand, no matter what it is.
I find the entire episode to be…typical of what I have learned to expect.
Just the data as it comes out, compared to, oh, the interview held by our beloved Nick on the other forum…and locked.
I am satisfied that some points are proven. Folks get the explanation on the date stamp on the loco, and the date on the box, and the arrival date, all of different years, and they swallow it, hook, line and sinker.
Back away and look at the whole picture…and you might just understand it a bit more.
It is amazing to see.
The hobby is shrinking, no doubt. Absolutely. Not anything you or I can do about it.
Started with the comments on forums “Where can I buy this the absolute cheapest?”, instead of supporting your local hobby shop…and the follow up, on various forums, when a new product has just hit the streets, “That was nice. What’s next?”
The small size of LS to begin with, the clamouring of the nincompoops for more and more new stuff, not satisfied with what they have…manufacturers using consumer demand as marketing…and we get so much stuff out the market is glutted…and where are we now?
Brand Loyalty has it’s p[lace…me? I don’t give a rip any more about any of them. I have all I will ever need, and if it breaks, I fix it. Period.
I hope you like what you have.
As far as running trains…all day tomorrow, noon to 2100.
WA WA WA Not again, The Doom and Gloomers and the Aiders are at it again, I forgot that their the only one’s allowed to have an opinion and no one else can post a topic thats train related without
the WA WA’s forcing there unfounded untruths on others to to get a thread locked, it’s their way or the highway. Sorry just venting Guys, Had a bad day.
I just opened up my new Aristocraft 0 4 0 that I bought Monday and found out that the New loco
I thought I bought was stamped built in 2011, Boxed in 2012 and Delivered in 2013 and then I ran it and the wheel fell off, And people wonder why those who “actually” support the Hobby and have the
product get upset. Sorry just venting fella’s.
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Nico, my son…
Who, pray tell is “Forcing ANYONE” to read this thread…I sure have no way of forcing anyone to read my crap…do you…
If you don’t want to read this particular thread, then don’t…just go off and read the other threads or start one for yourself…I won’t mind…it is a free World…at least where I come from it is…
No-one is saying anything against anyone…they are just passing on observations…is that wrong…just like when riding a train…no-one is forcing anyone to look out the windows…
Smile, young fellow…your thin skin is getting sun burned…!!
Curmudgeon mcneely said:
Keep it up, Nico!
We’ve been here before.
For me, it’s highly informative.
Always looking for more to understand, no matter what it is.
I find the entire episode to be…typical of what I have learned to expect.
Just the data as it comes out, compared to, oh, the interview held by our beloved Nick on the other forum…and locked.
I am satisfied that some points are proven. Folks get the explanation on the date stamp on the loco, and the date on the box, and the arrival date, all of different years, and they swallow it, hook, line and sinker.
Back away and look at the whole picture…and you might just understand it a bit more.
It is amazing to see.The hobby is shrinking, no doubt. Absolutely. Not anything you or I can do about it.
Started with the comments on forums “Where can I buy this the absolute cheapest?”, instead of supporting your local hobby shop…and the follow up, on various forums, when a new product has just hit the streets, “That was nice. What’s next?”
The small size of LS to begin with, the clamouring of the nincompoops for more and more new stuff, not satisfied with what they have…manufacturers using consumer demand as marketing…and we get so much stuff out the market is glutted…and where are we now?
Brand Loyalty has it’s p[lace…me? I don’t give a rip any more about any of them. I have all I will ever need, and if it breaks, I fix it. Period.
I hope you like what you have.
As far as running trains…all day tomorrow, noon to 2100.
The Hobby is shrinking cause people will no longer tolerate continuing quality issues from the manufactures that think they can get one over on people every time they release something. Its caught up with them and there just about gone. Honestly as one thats been burned time after time for trying to support them by buying the product. I say good riddens. Sorry fella’s
just venting… Had a bad day
Nick
Nico Corbo said:
............... I think you should go run some trains and spend less time typing. This forum will be real informative when there is three of you left bitching to each other.
Nico,
there is a saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander. You have posted twice on this thread. Now if your interest is actually RUNNING trains and NOT typing, then perhaps your priorities are wrong. It seems that you have the time to read threads with which you disagree with the content. Much like those who watch 'R' rated movies just to complain about the language and violence.
Simple common sense would have told you that given the content of the very first posting it was obvious the direction this thread would take. Now if you were actually running trains then you would have avoided reading the content of the thread.
It is apparently OK to verbally attack other members on this site rather than have them make COMMENT on a particular manufacturer's performance in the marketplace. Many would know that the manufacturer advertisements in the GR magazine were part of the magazine's history. Thus, when the manufacturer stops advertising then alarm bells ring very, very loudly.
Posters…PLEASE NOTE…
Your contributions to this and other threads would be much better to read, if you could PLEASE take the time to use the proper form of “Your, You are, or You’re” and “There, their, and They’re”…just a well meaning suggestion…nothing to be insulted by…you might also look at the proper use of to, too, and two…but that might be asking too much eh…!!
Thank you for your consideration…
Fr.Fred
Curmudgeon mcneely said:
Keep it up, Nico!
We’ve been here before.
For me, it’s highly informative.
Always looking for more to understand, no matter what it is.
I find the entire episode to be…typical of what I have learned to expect.
Just the data as it comes out, compared to, oh, the interview held by our beloved Nick on the other forum…and locked.
I am satisfied that some points are proven. Folks get the explanation on the date stamp on the loco, and the date on the box, and the arrival date, all of different years, and they swallow it, hook, line and sinker.
Back away and look at the whole picture…and you might just understand it a bit more.
It is amazing to see.The hobby is shrinking, no doubt. Absolutely. Not anything you or I can do about it.
Started with the comments on forums “Where can I buy this the absolute cheapest?”, instead of supporting your local hobby shop…and the follow up, on various forums, when a new product has just hit the streets, “That was nice. What’s next?”
The small size of LS to begin with, the clamouring of the nincompoops for more and more new stuff, not satisfied with what they have…manufacturers using consumer demand as marketing…and we get so much stuff out the market is glutted…and where are we now?
Brand Loyalty has it’s p[lace…me? I don’t give a rip any more about any of them. I have all I will ever need, and if it breaks, I fix it. Period.
I hope you like what you have.
As far as running trains…all day tomorrow, noon to 2100.Dave …why waste your time arguing what will happen with a company that has manufactued a product when you could be showing us what can be done with their product?
Thin skinned I am not, I just made an observation and stated my opinion, obviously if I do not agree with you, I am against you.
I stand corrected,
I will go back to cowering in the corner oh mighty train gods!
Nico,
a discussion on a topic is fine. However, when one attacks the personal poster and not the actual topic under discussion, then the discussion becomes an argument. Anytime a discussion takes place it seems that there is always some one who will want to derail it, resulting in an argument.
A discussion allows differences in opinion, however, a personal attack takes those differences and makes it an argument. If you differ with the opinions expressed then your contribution is as welcome as any other. However, if your sole aim is to derail the thread by personal attack, then it is you who started the argument.
David Russell said:
Dave …why waste your time arguing what will happen with a company that has manufactued a product when you could be showing us what can be done with their product?
I used to do that. Really. I still have all the photos of the fix for the passenger cars when I had to do a string of them.
It isn’t worth the effort.
There are those who are “true believers” who will jump all over you for having the audacity to suggest there is something wrong with their beloved product…and two weeks later they show up on the company website with questions on why their product is doing exactly what I tried to address.
I did fixes on USA…I was the one who called Chuckie on the split axle gears when we first came across it…oh, shoot, Tony remembers…and he said they don’t have any at all come in for warranty…and I said, how many axle and gearsets do you sell?
Lots.
He put several sets on the roof of their building to let them heat and cool…and they all split. Found out Sanda Kan had changed one of the specs, axle or gear, and not the other…and they fixed it.
When you get arsewipes modifying posts and sending them to manufacturers and you get to face the lawyers (and win), just because the person involved didn’t believe there was a problem…well, thread the bunch of them.
Last one I really worked on (and published) was the K, and it took thirty days to find and develop fixes for all the issues, and I’m a sonofa…well you get the idea…for doing it.
Why bother.
Why bring up horrible back to back, or super fat flanges, when the “faithful” bash you for suggesting there is a problem.
Remember the SD-45, when they had the add-on weights for the fuel tanks?
Remember the posts about broken axles?
Horse manure. They weren’t broken. The gauge was so tight, you go through properly gauged switch at speed, the loco can’t jump up (remember, an object in motion tends to…), so the wheels pushed out, ripping the short screws out of the axle gear.
Try to walk folks through full disassembly and shimming (2.5 hours per truck), and folks eyes glazed over.
Why couldn’t it be done right?
But we say that, and the “faithful” accuse us of bashing.
I may…someday…do that again, when my supply of single malt is large enough. Until then, I will revel in the reading of all the issues that are not addressed now because the “faithful” shouted everyone down back then who could have had some input to get it right.
Hopefully that is readable.
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