So in my search of 0-4-0 locomotives I came across this gem. I am not including the image because the guy is selling them so I don’t think its right to post it here but here is the link.
http://fineartamerica.com/featured/streamlined-narrow-gauge-vulcan-0-4-0-bill-cannon.html
I have wondered/daydreamed/schemed about a narrow gauge streamliner but never imagined this.
Looks a lot like a Marx, tinplate locomotive I once had.
It’s a fireless locomotive. Fireless engines were common in industrial sites where sparks from a fired loco could trigger disaster. They fill the insulated tank with super heated steam under pressure then use that pressure to run and used inside pistons under the throttle/cab to minimize pipe runs, the downside is a very limited range that’s why they were only used for industrial uses where they could top off the tank repeatedly. This one is quite unique looking. This could be built on a Lil Big Hauler drive.
You must have your book done, then, eh?
Okay, I’ll admit it, I’m a total idiot: why in the sam hell would you streamline something that doesn’t move more than five miles an hour in the first place?
Less places for the dust to collect , making it easier to clean…I don’t know…
John Passaro said:
Okay, I’ll admit it, I’m a total idiot: why in the sam hell would you streamline something that doesn’t move more than five miles an hour in the first place?
Because you can? 
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Steve Featherkile said:
You must have your book done, then, eh?
I’m not talking to you. . . (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif). That’s what I should be doing instead of all the other things I am doing.
Vic Smith said:
John Passaro said:
Okay, I’ll admit it, I’m a total idiot: why in the sam hell would you streamline something that doesn’t move more than five miles an hour in the first place?
Because you can?
Dang it you beat me to it.
David Russell said:
Oh there is just a ton of fodder there. One of those projects tumbling around in my head is a compressed air loco but these fireless locos are way cool also.
Vic Smith said:
It’s a fireless locomotive. Fireless engines were common in industrial sites where sparks from a fired loco could trigger disaster. They fill the insulated tank with super heated steam under pressure then use that pressure to run and used inside pistons under the throttle/cab to minimize pipe runs, the downside is a very limited range that’s why they were only used for industrial uses where they could top off the tank repeatedly. This one is quite unique looking. This could be built on a Lil Big Hauler drive.
John C,
remember the picture you shared of that tiny 0-4-0 chassis that had the pilot that appeared to be on the wrong end? This sounds like it could be what Vic is talking about.
Devon Sinsley said:
Vic Smith said:
It’s a fireless locomotive. Fireless engines were common in industrial sites where sparks from a fired loco could trigger disaster. They fill the insulated tank with super heated steam under pressure then use that pressure to run and used inside pistons under the throttle/cab to minimize pipe runs, the downside is a very limited range that’s why they were only used for industrial uses where they could top off the tank repeatedly. This one is quite unique looking. This could be built on a Lil Big Hauler drive.
John C,
remember the picture you shared of that tiny 0-4-0 chassis that had the pilot that appeared to be on the wrong end? This sounds like it could be what Vic is talking about.
Something like this one? Its a tiny fireless locomotive from the Apache Powder Co in Benson Ariz
They made dynamite, so ya can see why they might have been a bit shy about using a standard locomotive to shove cars (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif).
All the controls and cylinders were grouped in such a way as to minimize the distance between the tank, the throttle controls and the pistons. Many larger ‘cookers’ as they were called, retained a standard piston arraignment and outside cylinders, it all depended on the manufacturer.
I hope he has the pic. It looks like it cold be very much the same type of thing.
Devon Sinsley said:
Vic Smith said:
It’s a fireless locomotive. Fireless engines were common in industrial sites where sparks from a fired loco could trigger disaster. They fill the insulated tank with super heated steam under pressure then use that pressure to run and used inside pistons under the throttle/cab to minimize pipe runs, the downside is a very limited range that’s why they were only used for industrial uses where they could top off the tank repeatedly. This one is quite unique looking. This could be built on a Lil Big Hauler drive.
John C,
remember the picture you shared of that tiny 0-4-0 chassis that had the pilot that appeared to be on the wrong end? This sounds like it could be what Vic is talking about.
What???!!!??? You didn’t save it???
Dang it’s in a big folder, after I eat…
I know that fire-less locomotives were also used at some steel mills. It also makes sense where a locomotive would be going in and out of buildings to snag loaded cars and spot empties.
John Caughey said:
Devon Sinsley said:
Vic Smith said:
It’s a fireless locomotive. Fireless engines were common in industrial sites where sparks from a fired loco could trigger disaster. They fill the insulated tank with super heated steam under pressure then use that pressure to run and used inside pistons under the throttle/cab to minimize pipe runs, the downside is a very limited range that’s why they were only used for industrial uses where they could top off the tank repeatedly. This one is quite unique looking. This could be built on a Lil Big Hauler drive.
John C,
remember the picture you shared of that tiny 0-4-0 chassis that had the pilot that appeared to be on the wrong end? This sounds like it could be what Vic is talking about.
What???!!!??? You didn’t save it???
Dang it’s in a big folder, after I eat…
I might have it squirreled away for future build ideas. I did save a bunch of stuff for the micro build might be in there.
This one?
Yes I can let you have this Low Mileage beauty for only…
Good rememberer Devon, but Vic’s above has an extended frame.
John
That’s the one.
Here I thought someone cobbled this together. However, I see, from a previous post, that it must have been in some catalog. This one is sitting in Oaks, Pa. My grandson and I saw it last year when we visited a Greenbergs show nearby.
