Bob Springs said:Money? I'd like to have some......................so I can see what it would be like to "run out" ;) Ralph
I keep running out of monry!
Bob Springs said:Mine's not far away, but it's under about 2' of snow..............and possibly a couple inches of ice by tonight.
LOOKS GOOD. It'll be there when you get back to it. The new 1/29 layout is 6 miles away at my friend's house. I need to get something going here at home. Maybe the TTn3 1/2? I keep running out of monry!
Money??? what’s that???
Money??? who’s making it??
Welcome to the forum Bob.
HI DWAYNE, How are the CRITTERS coming along? I LOVE what you did with this one!
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This is the revised plan for the new layout. I don’t have a scanner so I shoot pictures. Should have waited for sunshine but maybe you can figure it out. (see diagram–next window)
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Mianline hidden staging is to right and top Branch line staging is to right, above main line. NS interchange staging is to left. Industry tracks, upper right, (paper mill) saved from Miami, 35th Ave.
I hope this diagram sketch will help. (Industery tracks have been redesigned a bit) The “branch line” up the left side is Norfolk Southern interchange staging.
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When building the Miami layout all I had to do was study the maps and web views then do my best to model what I was seeing. Not the case here. This is all freelanced and must be invented. We’ll see how it turns out.
It has been my experirnce that designing an indoor large scale layout which features class one standard gauge operation requires a different mindset than the smaller scales.
Rather than a point to point across a division, or even a meandering branchline, both which require more space in large scale than we are likely to have, it is better to focus on a single (but perhaps spred out) scene and what goes on there.
With enough local switching and interchange from hidden staging, one has interesting operation without things looking like a “theme park”.
It took me quite a while to see this. I kept trying to build “big HO”.
But large scale is, I believe, at it’s best, UP CLOSE and personal–SWITCHING–INTERCHANGE.
This is the format I used on the Miami layout and I was very pleased with it. Had we not moved
I think I would have kept that layout “forever”.
(the views expressed here are the views of 'Ole Unk and should not be taken as absolute.
Oposing views are welcome)
Andy Clarke said:Nobody!!! Cause you have it all!!!
Money??? who's making it??
Love them diesel’s Bob!
Bob Springs said:been there. but i was not content. right now i am building a 400 foot track layout with eight wild west towns and a ten foot double siding at every station. (but i like automatic roundy-round, not operating)
Rather than a point to point across a division or even a meandering branchline, both which require more space in large scale than we are likely to have, it is better to focus on a single (but perhaps spred out) scene and what goes on there.
GOOD FOR YOU, KORM.
This is why there are no absolutes in model railroading. We each get a shot at doing thinga our own way and even if it dosn’t work as we thought it would, we can always give it another try.
In our case, we have about 15 1/2 scale acres in which to work. We are using a 60in minimum radius on branch lines and industrial tracks as that’s about as tight as our body mounted KD’s will run, bigger on the main. If our space were resized for HO,
it would be only about 14ft square. A bedroom layout!
I’m sure, not everyone is as into switching as much as I am but 'ole No 4313’s crew will have lots to do handeling the interchange at River St. yard AND switching all the local industrys.
As much as I enjoy this sort of RR job, I’ll be the first to admit it is more fun to DO than it is to WATCH. So we’ll have the contenious run option for display running.
yep. good, that we are not all of the same mind and ideas. - that would be boring!
for me the fun is in the building. once a layout is done (after many years) i loose interest and think about a new one.
I just noticed this thread. Wow. Nice pictures Uncle Bob.
Jon.
Thanks Jon, Too bad, pictures are all I have left of this layout. But the new layout is beginning to take shape. In the meantime, here’s a few more memorys:
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This scene was outdoors, the Miami River scene on the patio. Tri-Rail, in the distance, is emerging from hidden staging (to left) These units ran push-pull from track power-automatic stop.
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I didn’t duck down for this shot. The bridges were above a standing person’s eye level.
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“Shoving back, along 59Th St”
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OK, Bob… what’s the story on the passengers equipment???
Andy, find information about the prototype at “Tri-Rail–Wikipedia”. There, especially note " diesel multipal units" as that’s what I built. The models were powered by a pair of switcher power blocks, one per unit. They were semi-permanently coupled and electrically interconnected. Tri-Rail runs them: power unit/nonpower unit/power unit, but I didn’t have room for the middle unit. (each unit was about 35in long) They were the only track powered units on the layout and only the streight shot of mainline where they ran (push-pull), had power. (about 100ft) I cobbeled together an extremely simple (and cheep) semi-automatic control system.
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Opperationally, I considered Tri-Rail to be sort of “antimated scenery”. They were not asigned a crew as their opperation was semi-automatic. But as CSX Y-120, the interchange train, had to share the mainline, it kept things interesting.
The main line where my Tri-Rail ran was only inches away from the backdrop
so Tri-Rail’s “other side” was never visable and I saved time by modeling only the side we could see.
Scenically, the Miami layout was all about ILLUSION. Just a believable environment in which to enjoy railroad operation. example: almost none of the structures had back walls (you couldn’t see them) and most were built forced perspective.