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New track build in NJ - Yet to be named railroad

Well I still have to upload and take some more recent photos but here is the start of my track. My plan for a track was already in progress when we were looking for hosues, I had a planned design and ideas though everything is just in my head and never bothered to put on paper. Since I am a 3’ NG guy mostly interested in Colorado NG I always wantedo buil some sort of large yard as part of the staging/steaming bay. So when I visited Colorado and rode the C&T I decided on Chama as my yard as it was a small enough yard in width that I can fit in most real back yards without much fudging. So I ended up with 5’ x 50’ yard, with leaving enough room for a turn around loop. This track will be mostly a single track mainline. The first phase is just the yard and two return loops. After I complete the yard I will move on to the extension which is about a 100’ run across the length of the yard. I always liked having a elevated track so you dont have to crawl around on the ground. I do like the look of a landscaped track to I am building everything to be completely landscaped. The yard will have minimal plants except against the back of the bed as a backdrop to the fence. The main sturcture would need to support the weight of anything I put on top so I unstalled 4x4 PT posts 24" in the ground with concrete. They are spaced 2’ apart in width and 5’ apart in length. The main supports are 2x6 doubled up. The top deck is 2x4 PT 12" on center. The top sheating was a debate as to what to use. I wanted something that drained but also that was strong enough not to bow with weight of stone and such. I als wanted something that wouldnt rot away. So in the end I used Aluminum 1/8" sheeting. It is a flattened expanded metal. Gives the strength I needed without rusting. Now the Aluminum brought in another issue. The new PT lumber had a caustic chemical that will eat the aluminum. So long as it dows not touch and has a spacer its ok. So now it was what to use. I finally gound a reasonable insulator that was cost effective. I used rubber weathershield used for door and window installation. Its sticky backed and flexable. At this point the aluminum is all installed, and I started to build the first return loop and am waiting for some bolts to come in to finish. More photos to come inthe upcoming days/weeks. I am hoping to have a loop running by mid sept, who knows though.

Hey Jason I am very excited to see this progress. In actuality, the Chama yard is pretty huge ( lengthwise ) in the narrow gauge world. It would be cool to have your extension on one end, with the Chama wye on the other?

Are you planning on doing the buildings in place as well? There aren’t too many but what is there would be awesome to have. I think at the wye end of the yard they may have had stockyards?.. correct me if I am wrong?

For a yard, there will be a lot of cool options and a lot of fun to be had. Keep up the good work

Matt

Matt said:
Hey Jason I am very excited to see this progress. In actuality, the Chama yard is pretty huge ( lengthwise ) in the narrow gauge world. It would be cool to have your extension on one end, with the Chama wye on the other?

Are you planning on doing the buildings in place as well? There aren’t too many but what is there would be awesome to have. I think at the wye end of the yard they may have had stockyards?.. correct me if I am wrong?

For a yard, there will be a lot of cool options and a lot of fun to be had. Keep up the good work

Matt


The Y is out of the question, though I replaced it with a loop for continous running.

The length is about a scale 1015’ Its the closest I can get to uncompressed. It is being designed for photo opportunitys so some things will be flopped around to the other side. The station will be on the fence side and the enging facility will be on the opposite but built on a wing to extend the decking.

Most all the building I can fit will be there, Station is 5 a bit large at 5 or so feet. I am doing a half depth station though as its up against the fence. The coaling tower and tank along with the ashpit will be in, I plan to do the oil facility along with a smaller version of the stock pens as part of that spur will also act as another steaming bay.

I have a Gallows turntable to work into the picture somewhere also, it may end up getting used on the mainline somewhere in a small place like Cumbres.

The extension will have a town scene, a gorge crossing with some waterfall so I can use a 4’ Through Howe Truss I have from Lonestar. I want to have some small spot like combres to use the turntable, I want to also have the famous D&S highline ledge. Some other thimgs but have to see how it all fits in the extension. Im thinking the scenes will all be about 20’ lengths.

Well off to a steam up this weekend in upstate NY.

Jason,
Great start, keep us up to date with the progress.

Nico

Fantastic, keep us informed.

Sounds GREAT . . . . :slight_smile:

I spent some time in the Chama yard in the spring of 2010 http://www.drburkholter.com/cf23.html

Will be interesting to watch the ““Build””… nice work… :slight_smile:

Awesome, can’t wait.

Jason…I too am building elevated on 2x PT, I’m really intrigued by your support methods, what dimensions of lumber are you using?

Hey nice innovation Jason! Looks like a great idea. I hope you’ll keep us posted on how the aluminum works out.

How much does the aluminum cost?

Jason looks good. Cant wait to come down and run some live steam on it.

Wow - That is quite a project. It will be great! When I first started planning I wanted to build Chama yard. I drew it out over the space I had and I would have only been able to fit about 1/4 of it. As it turned out that area is still undeveloped RR property :slight_smile:

Richard Smith said:
Hey nice innovation Jason! Looks like a great idea. I hope you'll keep us posted on how the aluminum works out.

How much does the aluminum cost?


I bought the sheets in 4x8, these cost 72.00 each but that is a wholesale rate. I bought through my business. Diebond which is also used it about 100.00 per sheet in comparison.

I am going to well draining decking and ballast. I still have not decided on ballast

Update as of today - I have started to build the return loop on the south end of the yard. I planned to use fence posts for the uprights and some sort of girder system as I have build the ladder roadbed and was not pleased with the strength it lacked. Seeing the recent Garden Railways article I decided that it was the way to go and being he already tried it, I can use that as I was planning on making it was overkill with adding more to the girder. I have used the trim PVC boards from Homedepot as I got a great deal on 16’ 1x8, I ripped 1.75" opff the 1x8 to give me the T section of the girder leaving me with the 1x6 for the web. Everything again is screwed together and the U bolt clamps give me the adjustability that I may need. The joiner is the same as the article, its a 2’ section. I may put a joiner on the other side too as they sandwich the band together. The top T section is the 1.75" strips laid flat and bent to the curve. Its screwed together with 2.5" screws predrilled Hopefully this week I will have the south loop done and I will start on the north loop. Hope to have track connected around Sept but that thats very close.

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And another overview shot with most of the decking laid.

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Looking good Jay.

In the search for ultimate realisim with the track I have been trying many different chemicals that are supposed to blacken the rail. Only one produced actually works and works very well. Jax line of blackeners have never failed anything Ive used them. I am using the cleaner and the blackener. Can you guess what this rail really is?

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I am using Llagas Creek 20.3 ties and Aluminum rail.

Nice. Is that a paint on or a soak it type? I need that stuff!

wow Jason that looks awesome! Will the railhead clean up at all or does it stay like that?

Matt

That is cleaned after the blackening. Actually they call is a antuque finish. It can be changed with a fine steel wool after its done. You control how much you do by how long its in there. Not a thing to do in the house either.

Basically its an Acid they cold blackens the aluminum, you can dip or bursh on. I dip into a tube so I dont waste so much.

As to the rail head it will clean up as I run. Just will let the wheels take their time on the rail and it will look the best rather then cleanign the whole top of the rail when only the inside top gets worn.

http://www.jaxchemical.com/index.html

There is a dealer at Cabin Fever in York that carrys the stuff also. I bought in gallon size though as I have over 400’ of rail to eventually do

that looks really real.
but i suppose, that you don’t run with trackpower?