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New Layout - New Reckless Experimentation

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#61

Sorry John that building is likely going to end up a freight transfer facility. Here is the Master Plan, I am repurposing the layout as an full-on urban harbor terminal type line,

I have been fighting doing this for a long time, mostly just being pigheaded about keeping the desert theme, but I just could not make it work in my mind all the while the layout plan just screamed urban waterfront, I finally realized that most of my big stuff is not decaled for the Borracho line, just numbered. and that I had alot of stuff than would with very little effort, be convertable to the urban theme layout. what finally did it was reading this site one too many times: Industrial, Offline Terminal Railroads & Rail-Marine Operations of Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, Bronx & Manhattan; New York One day my mind just clicked (or is that snapped) “yeah, I could do this without any major surgery” so there it is… The boats will all be movable, just sitting on the surface, the aisleway water will be a fold down section that during ops will be kept down for layout access, and up for photo taking, the biggest single change will be switching from link/pins back to knuckle couplers, probably Bachmann’s Haven’t decided on a name yet, but the era will likely be post-war 1950’s just before these lines were beginning to disappear. No name yet, not really worrying about that, some ideas: Brooklyn South Rwy - keeps the BSR already on some engines or maybe something a little more unique: Gotham District Transfer Gotham Harbor Transfer As I said, I’m really not in a sweat over the name. So here we go

#62

Victor, were you getting the boats from ?

#63

Nick

Scratchbuild most likely, I built model ships for YEARS before I got back into LS, I was thinking from Strathmore cardstock most likely. I already have the Ted Stinson plans for the tugboat Arnold S, the rest will follow from other sources :wink:

#64

Who says you can’t have fun in a small area!! Looking great Victor, just go for it!!!

Chuck

#65

yeah, go for it!
(then i can learn from your mistakes for my harbor)

#66

Now ya need some people! Or is it siesta time? :slight_smile:

#67

After some feedback from the smaller scale guys familiar with dockside type railroads, track plan has been revised a tad to include a holding spur next to the transfer barge and a run around at the gantry crane spur

I should consider calling this the Spaghetti Central

#68

Victor,
I think the BSR is perfect. I also hope you keep us up to date on the progress. This looks like a great track plan.
Is it all small (1200) turnouts?
What style/size equipment are you going to use.? 4 axle or 8 axle rolling stock?
What size/style engines?

Is there away to blow the drawing up to make it more reaadable?

#69

It took me a long time to find the run around track. Is that the best place for it? It really only works for the wharf.

#70

Ric, yep all R1s, dedicated engines for now are a Piko 0-6-0T, HLW Mack, a bashed Critter and a LGB Porter 0-4-0T. I plane to convert a couple more later, as these will all have Bmann knuckle couplers. Lucky for me I never tossed or sold off all the ones I aquired over the years.

Cars, well that’s where it gets interesting, I was planning to use mostly Bmann 20’ cars but the little buggers are now pretty dam expensive! So I am reverting back to using El Cheepo Scientific freight cars, they are about the same size, scale close to 1/24 and they modify very easily with Bmann trucks. But I have used all my stock spare trucks, and the ones I have left stupid me cut the coupler tangs off of so I could body mount link/pin couplers… D’oh!

#71

Here is a larger format PDF copy, hopefully it is easier to read.

#72

You said - " stupid me cut the coupler tangs off of so I could body mount link/pin couplers… D’oh!"

AndyC and I just had that conversation. I cut them off and he turns them to the inside and keeps them. So you don’t want any of my stuff, but Andy’s is okay. I have turned an HLW flatcar into a 1:20.3 flat car. I think the article is still in the LSC articles. Might work for you.

#73
Victor Smith said:
Here is a larger format PDF copy, hopefully it is easier to read.

http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/vsmith/Layout-New%20Direction%20Reduex%20Track%20Update%2012-3-12.pdf


OK, I see them, now. Thanks.

Good design.

#74

I was going to say, I see 3 run arounds.

Victor, if you put one more “run around” through your “Lucky Lager” building, you could have loads in and empties out. Like the mines and power plant stuff.

#75

Couldn’t you add another switch or two somewhere?:stuck_out_tongue:

#76
Steve Featherkile said:
It took me a long time to find the run around track. Is that the best place for it? It really only works for the [url=http://www.startrek.com/database_article/worf][b]wharf.[/b][/url]
Steve, there are actually two others, three others if you include the loop, four others if you include the wye ;)
#77
John Le Forestier said:
Couldn't you add another switch or two somewhere?:P
I'm working on it :P
#78

That is a really nice layout you have there. The track plan looks great, what software do you use to create that?

#79

Hi Dave I use an old Autocad program. I suppose I could draw up a mega detailed 3-D version if I had the latest incarnation of Autocad but it is far too expensive right now but the old one is still serviceable.

#80
Been studying harbor layouts again. Since I drew a suggested plan idea on MLS , kinda got some more ideas last weekend, top pic is the version based on the suggested plan, bottom version is based on a plan found on Carl Arendts scrapbook, modified into G, again all R1 curves. Both are self contained Harbor Transfer layouts complete with car float in/out service and could be an interesting ops layout in a small footprint:

Just to show another way to approach a self contained switching layout, the bottom version is a lot bigger but its based on a real facility in Bronx NYC.  Maybe its just me, but the more I study these the more I am surprised they are not more commonly modeled in any scale, the float operation is a perfect excuse for a small totally self contained switching layout with lots of action and a roundy-round option.