Large Scale Central

New building under construction

Hi, Whilst waiting for my 2 8 6 chassis (for a Mason Bogie) to be fitted with a motor & gearbox, I have been making a large industrial building for the ‘soon to be laid’ industrial and commercial siding. I found on the web a quite interesting building made by an Australian firm ‘Outback Models’ of such a building in ON3 scale. They made a laser cut kits of it and there are several versions on their website. I asked and was granted permission to use the design, (Thank you to Outback Models), for my FN3 scale model, which I am sure is really too small but I do not have any more space! This follows on from my boiler shop and produce building which was done from the old Model Railroader plans provided by Bruce Chandler. There is still a machine shop to make that will fit onto a 2 foot square paving slab. The postion ghas been cleared - but at the moment is full of over wintering plants! My version is not a copy, as I have reversed some of it and enlarged it in part as well. It is made from PVC solid foam sheet and also the plastic corrugated material, as used for signs mine is called ‘Korroflute’. The building is 27” long at the moment and 20” deep, there will be an increase in length, comprising a loading platform extension and a pillar crane I think, it will be fitted onto a 3 x 2 foot paving slab in due course… I started with the windows, and then cut the holes for them in the sheet material for the respective parts; these will be eventually fixed together: There is a staircase to the upper door, and on the twin slope roof when it is added I have a water tank to add; this is made from an old pill container – cut off the upper section, reverse it and glue back in position to stiffen it, add the vertical planks, and a top to suit and make a base for it. That will be the top of the covered (and tapered) base that will be fixed to the roof. It is 2.5 inches diameter, and 3.5 inches high. Here are some photos of the work completed so far – there is a lot of work still to do!

A couple of general views of it - still in individual pieces.

The main building, this is made from what you call 5mm thick ‘Sintra Board’. It will be board and batten construction.

http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/peterbunce/_forumfiles/LHand mainb.jpg These are a couple of the extensions - made from ‘Korroflute’ which is a tradename over here in the UK for the plastic corrugated board. This is also 5mm thick. Note the extra bracing - made from scrap PVC sections, though you can also use the scrap from cutting out the Sintra Board, and with care and extra stiffening the Korroflute which because of the corrugations a bit weaker - I add more scrap to it to stiffen it. The two projecting floors are still loose; the stairs are made but need exta supports to be made before fixing them in position for the upper door of the LH side extension. This building is big; especially the roof parts so the same ideas were used there to provide a good base fro the 60 thou roof panels to fit onto. The roof may be shingles ot corrugated iron, made from Fosters Lager cans - they are Australian as is the eesign so it will be a good match! The sheets are cut from the cans cut to size and then annealed to soften it, and crimped. Finally here is the small water tank - covered as my railroad is set in Colorado, it will be fitted later.

That is all for now - more later - meanwhile, I see I have forgotten to cut out the hole for a window - so back to that!

Interesting looking building…:wink:

Nice build. Looks like you have the start to another winner there

Looks like a really nice build. What type of cement did you use on the vinyl? Are you going to add stiffeners to the inside of your walls to prevent “bowing?”… That is my only concern about using that stuff and of course to glue issue. I found an art supply store here that sells 4’X8’ sheets of Coreplast for $ 24. It is the 5mm stuff. I use a .250 Lexan or Plexiglas bas on my structures as it is water and insect proof plus really stable. Kind of pricey though.

Hi Mike - Its not vynil but PVC - I use a glue that you do not seem to have in the USA - its Evo-stik, which is a latex based contact adhesive: I do not know but perhaps Walthers Goo is the same sort of thing? Needless to say I use a lot of it, as I have quite a lot of scratch built buildings. That price is quite cheap I think - its is more expensive over herev in the UK, though I do have a friend nearby who can get scrap pieces - that is cheaper. There are different grades of Sintra board (I think?) - certainly over here they have different densities, and finishes, semi matt is best there is a ‘gloss one side’ version which is harder to cut. There is a cross piece about the middle (both ways ) of the walls to keep them apart, the center one as it is 20" deep has a pair of them - that stiffens the building enough I find: the roof is as the photos. My buildings are fixed to sections of cheap 1" thick paving slabs with PVC angle section that has been fixed on with plugs and screws, the building is then screwed to those. It is easy to remove if necassay BUT they stay out all winter and this year they almost disappeared under the snow! Tjhis monster though will have the thick 3 x 2 version though. Here is a photo of that time -

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All survived with no damage. They are painted with Masonry (or emnamel) paint, then varnished as well. The roof if done with what you call construction paper (I think) - we call it roofing felt, and I get the cheapesrt possible type, is held onto the styrene under roof with (pvc) window frame sealant, and then painted with Thiompson’s Water seal.

Very nice.
This seems to be the material everyone is working with now. I’ll have to give it a try myself.
Ralph

Thanks for the tips Peter. Your work looks terrific.

Great looking building Peter. Lots of talent there.
Real super work.
David

Thank you for the comments - most appreciated. I have added some extra pieces to the building and the three sections are now fixed together. I have added a set of roof panels on top of the office, so I could work out a base for the water tank to sit on, That has been done and the tank itself has a thin metal base added to stop insects (etc) making a home there. The tank will rest on 3 bearers 5mm square underneath it. I was not satisfied that the ends were going to bit blank as they could be seen fairly easily: so some windows were added to them, so first they had to be made! Some of them are quite small, especially those on the upper floor of the (supposed) original building. The others were medium size 8 pane windows. Now there are 11 windows in all, and three small doors also. I have also made and fitted the long staircase to the upper floor of the main portion. The distance for the steps was copied frpm my book ‘Structures of the Early West’ – a goldmine! – yes there is one of those in it as well. Finally I have included a view of the inside bracing – all photos have been deliberately darkened to show some detail with the materials being white. Here are the new photos

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A photo of the office end, with a window inserted in the Korroflute that this part is made from. The water tank is in its location. I have sealed the join between sections with 4 thou aluminum strip (from lager cans) to keep water out of it - the shingle roof will be added and then another piece glued on to replicate the flashing.

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A top view of the office roof, there will be a stovepipe added in due course to it. Those holes in the central part are for the smallest size windows I have made for this building. The steps - to hold the lower end still I have fitted a small piece of 1mm diameter brass wire that can just be seen between the inner piece and the wall. Most of the steps are 5mm thick Sintra board with 3mm thick for the steps.

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A final photo of the interior bracing, note the extra bits, from scrap, on the inside of the corners.

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In addition there is on the outside PVC right angle strip corner pieces and strips along the base of all the building; all are 1mm thick, the same will be added under the roof edges when they have been fixed, and then to stiffen that area further there will be the rafter ends made from scrap Sintra board. The office roof is .060 the warehouse extension will be the same, but the main roof will need .080 styrene card for strength.

Very, Very Nice. I really appreciate your “engineering”. You are taking the time to make sure this beauty lasts a long time in the outside environment. Did you make your doors and windows? They look great.

Hi Mike, Thanks for the reply: Yes, doors are easy and quick being just a couple of layers of reasonable size pieces. The windows are slower as there are many more and small er pieces again making two layers. I use the same sytem that Bruce Chandler uses - a template for the windows, and fill the gaps with a latter of 1/2mm styrene card, then remove the matrix and fill in the gaps (on both sides) with more 1/2mm styrene. Lots of small bits of strip - I marke them out on the styrene with a set of ancient spring dividers to make a mark, enhace it with a sharp knife - I prefer scalpels, then cut off the strip, at about 8" long, straighten them and then cut some more. Then its the same method as Bruce, using the water thin plastic cement on a paintbrush to glue the strips together. Assemble the two parts (for sash windows) and edge it with 1mm x 5mm (or the thickness of the walls of your building) wide and you then use the window to mark out the holes that need to be cut. Finally add the final sets of strips for the outside edge of your window, that will in due course provide a glue area to fix them in. I use pieces of clear plastic packaging for glass, for large windows its is clear styrene (from those rigid CD cases) - its a bit fragile as it is clear styrene sheet about 1mm thick, I generally cut it out of the case back or front with a small circular saw; be careful with the glue, thats the difficult bit - it can mark the styrene! Here are 3 windows, complete except for painting and glazing. From the lefvt is the matrix, then edged (so the holes for them can be marked out) and a final completed window, ready for paint.

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You can see some of the joins - those will disappear with some painting!

Once again Peter, thanks for the tips.

Hi, The roof has been added and it took a lot of styrene! In addition I have added to the main (meant to be the original part) or center section the battens . ll the roves have the tauikls of the roof timbers which though a bit if a fiddle to fit stiffen the edges of the roof a lot. I am building one (double chimney), which can be seen on the ridge and three roof ventilators (like some American barns). The chimney has a section of a Vitamin C tablet container, (notwithstanding these I still managed a cold – right at the end of winter, it was ‘lying in wait; and the ‘dregs’ of it are still slightly with me alas!). On top of the chimney stack the section of cut up tube is used to make a rain/snow deflector that was clothed inside and out with 1mm planks to thicken it up; the outer ones are scribed to represent the bricks it is made of… Most of the stack has had the bricks added, the white bits at the bottom of it will be covered by ‘flashing’ in due course. ). The ventilators have only the bases made so far, now I will make 6 or 10 ventilator louvre units, and then the tops. Meanwhile saving some words, here are some more photos.

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First the building in its rough location, there are some early plants sytill in locatiojn that will be moved when they have finished flowering, and the long siding will then be worked out and laid in roughly the position of the green colored PVC strip. A final one -

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The 3 roof units are now fitted and the ‘bits’ for the top of them are started.

Hi, Its been a while, but the building portion is now finished, except for some small details. Heres are some photos of the results

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There were some changes along the way (mainly to the number and size of the chimmnies) but the rest is paint and lots of strips of Tarpaper for the roof shingles. There is still a deck to make, that tghe building will be fixed to (that deck being fixed to my large paving slab) but that though large is relativly easy; the foundation flag is in position so I will be working out the size for it soon. This building is 27" long 20" wide and about 15" high.

Now that’s a great looking building. Like the color combination, too. And the coupolas. VERY neat.

Beautiful Peter. I love the chimneys and the roof shingle detail

Wow, that is beautiful! Very well done! The rest of the town looks good too.

Sweet !
Ralph

a very fine building made by peter - as usually

Building is fantastic… wonderful job…