Large Scale Central

More junkbox mayhem - an 0-6-0

Modeling
#1

Okay, I got part of the story for this figured out. It was originally built as a heavy 2-6-0 by Baldwin in 1905, and bought by the AV for local (not express) passenger service. After the last regular passenger train ran in 1939, the AV found itself with several surplus Moguls - which were simply too small for drag freight service. But three of them, this one (#10), it’s twin sister(#9), and #12 had been recently totally rebuilt and were simply in too good of condition to scrap outright. The AV tried to sell them, but couldn’t. So in 1940 they traded the other one in on a SG switcher, and then cut this one down into an 0-6-0 to replace the old 1889 switcher at Oil City, also renumbering it as #4 - the engine it replaced… It started with a set of Bug Mauler wheels from Shawn, and a Delton c-16 frame.

Homemade rods from c-16 parts, brass box, and a pair of B’mann Porter crossheads.

A Bug Mauler smokebox that I got in trade from Rodney, and a nice cheap chunk of plastic pipe make for a fat boiler.

Total cash outlay so far $7

#2
Mik said:
Total cash outlay so far $7
Would that count as "thrifty as a Scotsman"?
#3
Forrest Scott Wood said:
Mik said:
Total cash outlay so far $7
Would that count as "thrifty as a Scotsman"?
More like "poor as a church mouse"
#4

I was wondering what you had planned. Cant wait to see the finished product.

#5

mock up… it might look half decent?

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/P1010022.jpg)

If it comes out too awful ugly. maybe I’ll put a plow on it.

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/UP712.jpg)

#6
Mik said:
If it comes out too awful ugly. maybe I'll put a plow on it.
Ohhh, where did you find that?
Mik said:
mock up... it might look half decent?
Most all of the 0-6-0 of that era I've seen in photos and drawings have steam dome more, or sometimes a bit less, centered between sand domes.
#7

Scott, If you read the backstory, this is supposed to be a Mogul that was cut down into a switcher… There’s a even prototype or two for it. This was originally built as a 10-wheeler.

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/p01432-1.jpg)

As for the steam dome being centered on 0-6-0s - I think maybe the big boys missed the middle a lot too.

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/PHD37--0-6-0.jpg)

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/Spang-Chalfont-No-8004.jpg)

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/p01433.jpg)

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/0-6-0builder001.jpg)

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/00000624.jpg)

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/hicks_locomotive_1907_lrg.jpg)

As for the plow pic, it was in a Cali library collection… I forget which one.

#8
Mik said:
Scott, If you read the backstory,
I did, about numbers 10, 9, 12, currently forget what they all are without going back to look.
Mik said:
As for the steam dome being centered on 0-6-0s - I think maybe the big boys missed the middle a lot too.
Yep, that's what I said.
Forrest Scott Wood said:
... dome more, or sometimes a bit less, centered between sand domes.
#9

Anyway, the rear sand dome wouldn’t have been there when it was a 2-6-0… It was only stuffed on where it fit when the frame was cut down to make it an 0-6-0… or at least that’s my story… I thought about putting the steam dome forward, but decided to put it more where it would have been on a 2 dome Mogul.

(http://www.savingesnarailroad.com/images/201_coachs_caboose.jpg)

I think maybe it will look less strange when I get the bell on

#10

The bell is installed… It’s one of those whitemetal “Simpson?” kits from that guy fleabay… nice fellow to deal with, and pretty decent for $5

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/P1010020_02.jpg)

Oh, and this is Stanley Stinkem, the new Skonkworks mascot.

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/P1010021_01.jpg)

#11

Well, if something sits around unfinished long enough, other ideas begin to take hold. I ordered an Aristo plow blade off Trainworld today. I’m fitting the pony truck tonight. It will be a heavy 2-6-0 with a huge plow.

(http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt7/tigerlillie06/His%20Stuff/UP712.jpg)

However, Since it might actually be used to plow snow eventually, along with heavy bracing and extra weight, I’m thinking battery power is probably a necessity. I don’t want fancy, just basic… and cheap. I’m leaning towards a non r/c setup like the ‘critter control’. But what about batteries? I’ve mostly ignored the battery mafia up til now. And I still don’t want to go all the way down that road. I just need something cheap, simple and reliable for this one engine. Suggestions?

#12

Oh Oh, Mik’s going to the dark side. :wink: Who could be next?

#13

Mik - If you have the space NiCd are a tried and true solution and will do well with a proper charger. They are the most economical choice - but large. I’m using 18V drill batteries in a trail car for two set-ups with a Trackside TE connected to the battery. My first self-contained loco is a Porter which uses LiIon due to space limitations.

Edit to add that it might be pretty difficult to plow snow without throttle control.

#14
Randy McDonald said:
Oh Oh, Mik's going to the dark side.
Not bloody likely, refitting the 2017 would be difficult, fitting the climax nearly impossible -- even if I could afford it. I'd resubscribe with Klambake first.

since this is a Bug Mauler drive, I’m assuming 12v is all I’ll ever need? I’d like to fit it all in the Delton tender.

#15

Mik,
The cheapest way would be to go with the drill batteries. I think I’ve seen them as cheap as $9.00 at Harbor Freight.
A Bachmann tender will fit a pretty good size battery pack, but not a drill battery. I’m not sure about the Delton.

You might think about using a caboose and going with the drill battery.
Ralph

#16

The Delton tender is 2/3 (or less) the size of a bug mauler tender. About 3-1/2" x 8" x 2" inside? The old style Makita 1210 rechargeables might fit

#17

The Harbor Freight drill packs can usually be taken apart. They have one battery that goes up into the piece that slides into the drill, unless you get the flat one. Either one can be re-arrange a bit once you take the batteries out of the case. Just keep track of the connections for the charger.

#18

Today was a weird roller coaster of a day. I installed the crossheads and connecting rods this afternoon - got it looking good, then went to re-test the chassis,---- half a revolution, and… bind city. – So I tore the chassis back down. Rechecked for square and found that the front axle had gotten shifted on one side by about 1/64". Just enough to cause everything to jam. Mind you, it ran fine back in January! … I THINK I finally got all that sorted out, or mostly. I can’t test it until a couple glue joints set up harder. The more I think about it, the more I’m probably going to oval out the holes in the siderods to allow for a sloppier fit ala Aristo.

Then, when I’d pretty much had enough frustration for one day, came a totally unexpected, but very nice message from Del Tapparo - He said somebody anonymously donated me a Critter Control for this project! Basic, not Simple, even! All I can say is “Wow!”… and Thank You!

#19

You Mik, another thought… Harbor freight has rechargable nicad and NiMH AA & AAA cells and chargers fairly cheap. Might be possible to just build your own pack. Might even be possible to squeeze an extra volt or two in there.

#20

I found this photo in my files the other day. It’s a Porter, not a Baldwin, but it looked more balanced than what I was building.

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j371/AlleghenyValley/porter.jpg)

So I removed the generator and shortened the whole thing by a little over 3/4". I’m much happier with it now.

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j371/AlleghenyValley/P3060018.jpg)

The tender shell is taking shape as well. If it looks sort of like one for a K-27, well it should… just much smaller

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j371/AlleghenyValley/P3060021.jpg)

I’ve had this welded air tank (with the huge hole) in my junk box for ages. So I’ll use it on this to hide the battery controls

(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j371/AlleghenyValley/P3060022.jpg)

I’m still working on the chassis, it should be ready to test by tomorrow. Does anybody know what a good overall weight for this drive would be?