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Mogul 2-6-0 Lights Not Working

Problem Solving
#1

I bought a used 28192 Mogul on Ebay, the seller said “This attractive locomotive features operating headlight, operating smoke and operating sound Piece worked when bench tested.”. I was able to put it on the track last night for the first time with power and found neither light worked and I cannot get the smoke to work. The firebox light works but since the lights and I think the smoke are active based on direction of travel I figured it must have something to do with the controller in the engine knowing that the engine is moving and which direction.

There is a three position switch on the engine, I believe it to be Off, Lights and Smoke, Motor Lights and Smoke. The Sound switch is in the Tender.

I am using LGB DCC.

Any thoughts on what I should be looking for?

#2

Stupid question, but is there a cable that connects the engine to the tender? And was it fully seated in the sockets?

#3

Never mind, just tried my LGB mogul without the cable connected and the smoke & lights still worked.

#4

Clearly you have already tried turning on the lights with F0?

Greg

#5

OK please disregard… newbe operator error.

I did not see in the opening paragraph the instruction for turning the Light function on and off using the ‘9’ button on the controller. There is a list of commands following the paragraph with all of the other commands but not the light so I figured there wasn’t a control to turn the light on and off.

All is good now… whew!

#6

Mark, I am glad to read that all is well in Pittsburgh again.

There is a lot to learn. :slight_smile:

#7

Interesting it is the 9 button, should really be the zero, but whatever works.

Good for you!

Greg

#8

If you look closely at the LGB handheld, there is a light symbol next to the 9 key.

#9

Crazy! it is ALL lights, does F0 still control the headlights?

Greg

#10

No, just the 9 key.

#11

can the headlights be reprogrammed to F0 to meet NMRA standards?

Greg

#12

It is not the engine, it is the command station.

All MTS locos have worked with F0 on my Zimo system, it is only F9 on the MTS system.

#13

???

F9 on the MTS system sends the NMRA F0 command?

Sure looks like F0 is on the keypad…

What does it do (function 0), pray tell?

I’m learning something here… hopefully F1 through F8 send NMRA F1 through F8 commands?

#14

So now that I am a little more knowledgeable and experienced I have noticed that the Commands list in the manual provided with my Mogul does not line up with the functions of the engine.

First it describes a four-way power control switch on the engine, I only have a three-way control switch. The sound is controlled by a switch on the tender instead of the engine.

Second only the light (Button #9) lines up with the list of commands.

Anyone know where I can find the correct manual for my Pennsylvania Mogul 28192?

#15

No idea where you can get instructions , but you (and others) may find the following useful when you are delving in the depths .

http://lgb.vanelten.nl/Database/explosietekeningen/28192-1.pdf

Mike Brit

PS Most other LGB locos on same site , index below .

http://lgb.vanelten.nl/Database/index.html

#16

Mike Morgan said:

No idea where you can get instructions , but you (and others) may find the following useful when you are delving in the depths .

http://lgb.vanelten.nl/Database/explosietekeningen/28192-1.pdf

Mike Brit

PS Most other LGB locos on same site , index below .

http://lgb.vanelten.nl/Database/index.html

Thanks for the feedback Mike. I do have this document but it does not address the commands. I am looking for this document.

This page in particular as I want to make sure I never turn on the smoke when it is empty.

#17

When running on DCC, make sure the engine and DCC station have the same settings for speed steps. This is the number one reason I find why function keys fail to work properly.

In the engine it is CV29 and LGB sold all engines at 14 speed steps. Marklin now sets this to 28 speed steps thus making the users that have no idea of what I am mentioning have engines that fail to work (read Allegra).

Remember that all MTS command stations are 14 steps only and 8 to 22 addresses depending on model.none can do 128 and only with the navigator can the MTS III do 28 steps.

Now with used engines with MTS, owners like me would have set the engines to 28 steps if the decoder can do this.

#18

Thanks Dan, so there is a setting on the decoder board inside of the engine I should check?

#19

The settings are checked by reading out the appropiate CV’s I listed.

BUT, the speed steps have to match in order to read these, sort of a catch 22 here.

#20

14 speed steps sounds rather low. Odd they would have chosen that setting.