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Mini heisler ?

Found this engine on Pinterest it is from Rio Allosius mining & co. says it is a On3 model ( the rest is in non English ) so haven’t a clue what it says, it is built like a heisler using a twin V cylinder but is in front of the boiler instead of in the back and has no side rods so was wondering what it is, would like to build one, any thoughts are appreciated, Bill

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Bill:

Good find.

If you use Chrome to view a page that’s in a foreign language you might see an icon on the right side of the address bar that looks like two small boxes superimposed on each other with what appears to be a G and an R in the boxes. If you left-click the icon you’ll get a dialog box that asks if you wish to translate from French to English. Anyway that’s how it works for me and I don’t remember if I did anything special to have this facility available.

Rio Allosius Mining & Co. - Part 2: Engines & Rolling stock

Somewhere, Bill, there is a STAINZ awaiting your talent!

Nice whimsy!

Want a true non-heisler heisler?

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/john_caughey/funkyarseheisler.jpg)

Hmm, a dieselized Heisler … okay, so, for everyday casual usage would that end up contracted to Diesler, or since it was a Heisler first would it be Heidel?

I don’t know that, but what I do is that some of the folks at our local creative writers group which meets - actually in person again! - tomorrow morning would think

Deisler Heidel could make a useful name for a character in a fantasy or sci-fi story.

it is built like a heisler using a twin V cylinder

Some years ago, Bill Allen built a similar one-truck Heisler in live steam. It was based on a real prototype.

https://forums.mylargescale.com/18-live-steam/32745-one-truck-heisler-build-log.html

(http://www.wegmuller.org/gallery/var/resizes/Large-Scale-Models/One-truck-Heisler/Image083.jpg?m=1400698742)

Bill Barnwell said:

… was wondering what it is, would like to build one, any thoughts are appreciated, Bill

I think it could well be a freelance inspired by some of the unique prototype machines viewable here, http://www.gearedsteam.com/

But, remember, there is a prototype for everything, all you have to do is find it …

John Caughey said:

Nice whimsy!

Want a true non-heisler heisler?

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/john_caughey/funkyarseheisler.jpg)

Are you sure it isn’t a real Heisler?

*"*Heisler Locomotive Works also manufactured a single diesel-electric locomotive in its twilight years utilizing their trade-mark side-rods on the outside of each truck’s wheelsets. "
http://www.gearedsteam.com/heisler/heisler.htm

Pete Thornton said:

John Caughey said:

Nice whimsy!

Want a true non-heisler heisler?

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/john_caughey/funkyarseheisler.jpg)

Are you sure it isn’t a real Heisler?

*"*Heisler Locomotive Works also manufactured a single diesel-electric locomotive in its twilight years utilizing their trade-mark side-rods on the outside of each truck’s wheelsets. "
http://www.gearedsteam.com/heisler/heisler.htm

Not at all, the Picture is titled: FunkyHeisler.

Thanks

John,

I think that is the converted Heisler now owned by the Timber Heritage Society in Samoa, CA.

Bill Barnwell said:

Found this engine on Pinterest it is from Rio Allosius mining & co. says it is a On3 model ( the rest is in non English ) so haven’t a clue what it says, it is built like a heisler using a twin V cylinder but is in front of the boiler instead of in the back and has no side rods so was wondering what it is, would like to build one, any thoughts are appreciated, Bill

heislerright sideleftright

Calling Dr. Norm ?

Pete Thornton said:

*"*Heisler Locomotive Works also manufactured a single diesel-electric locomotive in its twilight years utilizing their trade-mark side-rods on the outside of each truck’s wheelsets. "

Found this which pictures and discusses it, http://ngdiscussion.net/phorum/read.php?1,122953,123092

Don’t overlook the Speedster!

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Sorry Bill, I’ll stop.

Knew I had a picture of this baby somewhere. Here it is in the round house in Samoa.

Builder/Year: Heisler 1927
Type: B-B Diesel converted from
2-truck Heisler
Weight: 24 tons
Construction #: 1546
Location: Samoa Roundhouse
Status: non-operational

Originally built as Elk River Mill & Lumber Co. No. 3, it worked only 10 years until the mill shut down for good. A junk dealer scrapped the boiler and sold the rest to Mutual Plywood Corp. where a Murphy diesel engine was mounted on the frame and it was used as a mill switcher. In the 1960s it became U.S. Plywood Corp. No. M62; U.S. Plywood was subsequently purchased by Simpson Timber Co. Sold to Frank Bayliss for display at a small tourist railroad at Alton, it was purchased from him by the Association in 1991. It is operational.

Knew I had a picture of this baby somewhere.

It never ceases to amaze me what pops out when we get a strange question . . .

Pete Thornton said:

Knew I had a picture of this baby somewhere.

It never ceases to amaze me what pops out when we get a strange question . . .

That’s one of the best things about this forum! (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

A wealth of information here but I seem to still be in the same spot as when I started even search backwoods On3 with nothing, oh well I’m going to build it anyway, Thanks to all, Bill

With the help of all I was able to translate the forum on which this engine appears and have found that there is no prototype when the person building this was doing so he had the choice of piston, shay, climax or heisler and he chose as he had a v twin one, other parts mostly came from trolley chassis and porter cab parts neat build but no explanation on what drove the rear wheels so we will just assume it used a drive shaft. Billmini heisler front

Bill Barnwell said:

… and have found that there is no prototype when the person building this was …

There is a LOT of that in the On30 world.

Which is at least half the point of doing On30 at all.
Especially in my own On30 world (https://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

drove the rear wheels so we will just assume it used a drive shaft.

Not clear that you actually need to connect the pistons and the wheels. All the motion is hidden by the boiler.