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LGB Web Sites are down

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#30
Jerry McColgan said:
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What controversy?

Just because someone claims to read something and interprets something and puts a personal spin on it does not make it a fact.

If someone claims to be an expert and implies that his knowledge indicates that the LGB web site is under attack - that is nothing more than a presumptive conclusion that amounts to nothing more than an attempt to get the reader to buy into his predetermined frame of mind.

I think you folks need to open your eyes and open your minds.

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Jerry,

Wikipedia said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

Methods of attacks

A “denial-of-service” attack is characterized by an explicit attempt by attackers to prevent legitimate users of a service from using that service. Examples include:

  • flooding a network, thereby preventing legitimate network traffic;
  • disrupting a server by sending more requests than it can possibly handle, thereby preventing access to a service;
  • preventing a particular individual from accessing a service;
  • disrupting service to a specific system or person.

Attacks can be directed at any network device, including attacks on routing devices and Web, electronic mail, or Domain Name System servers.

A DoS attack can be perpetrated in a number of ways. There are three basic types of attack:
consumption of computational resources, such as bandwidth, disk space, or CPU time;
disruption of configuration information, such as routing information;
disruption of physical network components.

In addition, the US-CERT has provided tips on the manifestations of DoS attacks:

  • unusually slow network performance (opening files or accessing web sites)
  • unavailability of a particular web site
  • inability to access any web site
  • dramatic increase in the number of spam emails received

bold print added for clarity

Precisely what the error message on the LGB.de indicated.

Those who can read have a clear advantage!

PS I don’t claim to be an “expert”, but I’m perfectly willing to keep learning every day for the rest of my life! :smiley:
And I’m very interested in all kinds of things!

#31
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Precisely what the error message on the LGB.de indicated.

Those who can read have a clear advantage!

PS I don’t claim to be an “expert”, but I’m perfectly willing to keep learning every day for the rest of my life! :smiley:
And I’m very interested in all kinds of things!


I gotta give you credit HJ.

You are consistent.

Actually I did a Google translate of the error message:

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The side cannot be indicated
At present too many visitors access the Website.

Try the following:

Click on the switching surface updating, or you try it again at a later time.

Open the homepage 64.233.179.104 , and you look for linkages to the desired information.
HTTP 403,9 - Access forbade: Too many users connected
Internet news services

Technical information (for the support)

A cause:
This error can occur, if the Web server is busy and your requirement cannot process because of high extent of utilization.

Further information:
Microsoft support


A web attack IS NOT “Precisely what the error message on the LGB.de indicated.”

The web site said specifically what it was:

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If you recall YOU said:
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Hmmmmmmmm would that be a “Denial of Service” attack??? Would anyone have an interest in that, since EPLehmann GmbH & Co KG was to have an announcement today???


You also said:

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Interesting observation from a German Internet user who gained temporary access to the LGB.de site “Complete revamp”


So the web site says there are too many visitors and you say there is a complete revamping undergoing.

Some folks might think that maybe the words that were said FROM THE WEB SITE that there are too many visitors just might mean that during whatever revamping is being undertaken, there has been a resulting limited access for the time being.

Somehow in all your expertise you seem to be ignorant of or you intentionally choose to ignore the fact that just perhaps there is a technical glitch but that may not suit your purposes as much as to suggest that there is a Denial of Services Attack.

To top it off, as proof you provide a dictionary explanation of what a Denial of Attack is.

That is no proof of anything. It is a dictionary interpretation of a term that YOU chose to use to explain YOUR interpretation of a fact that made no reference to the claims you are making of it.

I find this a bit more interesting because since I am a moderator of the LGB Club Forum perhaps LGB might have found it desirable to inform me if the web site I am moderating was “under attack.”

Maybe the reason LGB did not warn me was because it never occurred to LGB (as it has to you) that somehow LGB has such vicious enemies that those enemies have nothing better to do than to attack and disable the LGB web sites.

The only “fact” that seems to be verifiable in this silly bit of nonsense is that if one follows the advice given (in German) and you

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. you try it again at a later time.
Surprise!!!

You eventually get into both the LGB and LGB Club Forums (Oh I forgot - you may not be a member of the LGB Club).

Then again you should know all of this because you speak and read German don’t you?

Me? I don’t speak or read German and I don’t know much about Denial of Service Attacks. I also don’t go around looking for gremlins where none exist - just to further some sort of a personal agenda.

Anti-LGB?

Nah! You’re not anti-LGB - Are you?

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Those who can read have a clear advantage!


Yep! I totally agree. Those who can read (and take the time to read for themselves instead of blindly accepting unadulterated BS) do have a clear advantage.

Cheers,

Jerry

#32
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Jerry McColgan said:
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What controversy?

Just because someone claims to read something and interprets something and puts a personal spin on it does not make it a fact.

If someone claims to be an expert and implies that his knowledge indicates that the LGB web site is under attack - that is nothing more than a presumptive conclusion that amounts to nothing more than an attempt to get the reader to buy into his predetermined frame of mind.

I think you folks need to open your eyes and open your minds.

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P.S. Thanks for quoting me accurately. I like what I said and I think I'll say it again.

Cheers,

Jerry

#33

Jerry,

Those who can read have a very clear advantage, apparently you don’t!

But I give you that you have a talent when it comes to couch simple things in complicated, profuse verbiage! Ever thought of going into politics?? Oooops, you are in politics! That’s where saying very little with as many words as possible is in great demand!

I know quite a few spin doctors who made “the step up” into politics!

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#35
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
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Oooops, you are in politics!


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HJ,

You are marvelous (for entertainment purposes if nothing else).

Another piece of unadulterated BS that has absolutely no foundation in fact.

I am not and never have been in politics.

I am retired. I work for no one. I represent no one and I have allegiance to no one. You are going to have to try pretty hard to find someone, some company or some organization to associate me with because…

are you ready for it?..

Here it comes…

I don’t care!

Once again you have jumped from the airplane with no parachute.

Are we through playing now? I suspect reasonable folks gave up reading this gibberish long ago.

Jerry

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#37

Warren Mumpower said:
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. Hi Warren, I like it. It takes a special kind of person to go seeking brick walls to bang his head against doesn’t it? The brick wall does not go looking for dumb heads. They come looking for the brick wall and then they act surprised when the brick wall (which is not disguised to be anything but a brick wall) proves immovable and unconcerned about the dumb heads. The only place on LSC that I can be found is right here. Go anywhere else and guess what? I won’t be there. I’ll bet you knew that didn’t you? Cheers, Jerry

#38

Warren Mumpower said:

Warren, Not to worry! :wink: :slight_smile:

#39

Warren Mumpower said:
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. To whoever called Warren a Dork… Please stop doing that. Its not nice. ; ) Cheers, Jerry

#40

Jerry McColgan said:

Warren Mumpower said:
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To whoever called Warren a Dork… Please stop doing that.

I would never, under any circumstances, foreseen or unforeseen, state, suggest, or imply that the estimable Mr Mumpower or any other person or entity on this group is or ever has been a dork. I, on the other hand, have been oft informed by reliable sources, a.k.a my then teenage daughters, that my dorkiness was, is and ever shall be beyond doubt and incorrigible. Said daughters are now matrons of maturer years and politer … to my face. Nonetheless, I suspect that my tombstone will bear the legend “Here lies a dork.” Women will always have the last word.

#41

ARGH

Bob bangs his head agains the desk…

#42

Warren Mumpower said:

I wish I had a larger version of that pic, I would add an engineers hat and have Opus holding a large scale car…I know my wife would say…“Yes, thats you” :slight_smile:

#43

I’ve just shut this thread out of my computer and I leave with this one statement…

I've be known to be clean worded, and use only one word to describe the odd person here and elsewhere.

                                TWIT

Get a life.
#44

Judas H. Priest.
That last post by Jerry has to go down in the history books as his shortest.
Warren-
Word of advice.
Never get him into a discussion.
He will try to prove with his many words what is absolutely unsupportable.
If you put together his responses on the various forums over the years, it would make “War and Peace” look like a magazine.

I’m with you Ferd…

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#46

Victor Smith said:

Warren Mumpower said:

I wish I had a larger version of that pic, I would add an engineers hat and have Opus holding a large scale car…I know my wife would say…“Yes, thats you” :slight_smile:

Vic, I tried scaling it up at 2400 dpi, but you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. :frowning: :frowning:

#47
Fred Mills said:
I've just shut this thread out of my computer and I leave with this one statement....... 
I've be known to be clean worded, and use only one word to describe the odd person here and elsewhere.

                                TWIT

Get a life.</blockquote>

A “Twitter” has passed through.

I guess I’ll permanently forget about that trip to Canada that I’d been trying to work in these past few years.

That will save me over $1,000 and several long days of driving.

Thank you. I really do appreciate it.

Jerry

#48
Curmudgeon said:
Never get him into a discussion. He will try to prove with his many words what is absolutely unsupportable.
You fellows amaze me.

You print something like that after you push and prod me into saying something then act surprised when I say something.

One of my “shortest” posts was the one in which I started this topic and once I had posted it I had no intention or desire to say a single word further.

I only posted it out of courtesy to the folks here. I posted the exact message on other forums and there was no argument. Little discussion. Nothing. The message was taken for what it was intended INFORMATION ONLY!

Then, after I posted MY message, a person I consider to be a total pain in the ass and who I have asked for YEARS to stay the hell away from any topic I post ANYWHERE jumps in and dumps his load of garbage all over my topic.

What happens?

Somehow I am the guy who is a braggart and a twit and whatever else you like to throw in.

Him?

Instead of being seen as the obnoxious, intrusive, inconsiderate, ignorant, biased, oppressive, conniving, devious, abhorrent, abominable, annoying, awful, beastly*, big mouth*, bitchy, blue, creep, crumb, cussed, detestable, disagreeable, disgusting, dislikable, displeasing, foul, funky, grody, gross*, hateable, hateful, heel, horrid, insufferable, invidious, loathsome, mean, nasty, nauseating, objectionable, odious, off-color*, ornery, pesky*, pestiferous, pill*, repellent, reprehensible, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, rotten, sickening, stinking, unpleasant person I see him as (I went to a thesaurus for a few additional descriptions) is OK.

Now if you can figure a way for me to get the the obnoxious, intrusive, inconsiderate, ignorant, biased, oppressive, conniving, devious, abhorrent, abominable, annoying, awful, beastly*, big mouth*, bitchy, blue, creep, crumb, cussed, detestable, disagreeable, disgusting, dislikable, displeasing, foul, funky, grody, gross*, hateable, hateful, heel, horrid, insufferable, invidious, loathsome, mean, nasty, nauseating, objectionable, odious, off-color*, ornery, pesky*, pestiferous, pill*, repellent, reprehensible, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, rotten, sickening, stinking, unpleasant person to stay the hell away from my topics, my postings will get a lot shorter.

German translation: abscheulich, aufdringlich, unüberlegt, unwissend, voreingenommen, bedrückend, conniving, falsch, verabscheuungswürdig, abominable, das Stören, schrecklich, beastly*, das grosse mouth*, gehässig, blau, Ausdehnung, Krume, fluchte, detestable, unangenehm und ekelte, dislikable, das Mißfallen, regelwidrig, funky, grody, das gross*, hateable, verhaßt, die Ferse, horrid, unerträglich, invidious, abscheulich, Mittel, bös, ekelerregend, unzulässig, odious, off-color*, ornery, das pesky*, pestiferous, pill*, Abwehrmittel, reprehensible, repugnant, repulsive und hnte aufle, faul und machte, das Stinken krank, unangenehm

If he can use a dictionary to try to get his point across I can use a thesaurus to try to get my point across.

And Dave, while we are at it, if you had not ASKED me to come here this would have been my first rather than my second visit here in years.

This sure is a friendly place to visit. Isn’t it?

Jerry

#49

DING! Thread over. Thanks for playing. Personal attacks happen in that room to the left. Not here. How many (&#$&# times do I have to tell you people that?

Congratulations. Another first on LSC. I’ve locked a thread.