Warren Mumpower said:
Jerry, you spend a lot of time defending yourself while you say you don't care. :/ That in itself is a contradiction. One who truly doesn't care would just turn their back and say nothing...but you feel it necessary to become defensive.
I do not like the politics that appears to be going on between LGB and LGBoA. It sucks for the whole industry.
One note about your opening statement to this thread: The way you wrote it was in a very formal, authoritative manner…not as a friend, or an active participating member of the LSC family, but as an outsider
if you didn’t get stung you would not have tried to defend yourself.
Think about what I have said. It may save you much pain in the future.
If you feel that someone is just trying to cause problems, ignore them. Don’t defend yourself or anything else to them.
Hello Warren,
“I don’t care” is a generic statement I use. It actually does not mean that I don’t care about anything but instead tends to mean that I only care to the depth of what I may have said.
If someone has a problem with something but does not ask me for my advice and others are providing sufficient advice already, I don’t care enough to jump in and try to swing the conversation to my way of thinking.
If someone likes Aristo-Craft - I don’t care - because I trust that Aristo will prove to be a perfectly suitable product line for them to use on their layout.
If someone else likes Bachmann - I don’t care - because I trust that Bachmann will prove to be a perfectly suitable product line for them to use on their layout.
If someone else likes LGB or USA or whatever - I don’t care - because I trust that whatever brand they choose will prove to be a perfectly suitable product line for them to use on their layout.
If someone likes live steam or battery power or track power or radio control - once again I don’t care because I trust their ability to think for themselves and figure out which is best for themselves.
When someone tries to tell me what I should do or steps on a topic I start - then I start caring and reacting.
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One note about your opening statement to this thread: The way you wrote it was in a very formal, authoritative manner....not as a friend, or an active participating member of the LSC family, but as an outsider....your first whack at the hornet's nest.
I wrote the opening statement as a statement of fact and I provided the information on the alternative forum and website also as statements of fact.
My objective was clear and simple - to provide fellow LGBers information that they might have found helpful.
Based on my past experiences on this site I did not wish to provide any cause for the factual data I provided to be twisted into some sort of controversy. Clearly that did not happen.
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I do not like the politics that appears to be going on between LGB and LGBoA.
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What controversy?
Just because someone claims to read something and interprets something and puts a personal spin on it does not make it a fact.
If someone claims to be an expert and implies that his knowledge indicates that the LGB web site is under attack - that is nothing more than a presumptive conclusion that amounts to nothing more than an attempt to get the reader to buy into his predetermined frame of mind.
I think you folks need to open your eyes and open your minds.
Perhaps you should start asking yourself questions like:
Why did he say that?
Why did he do that?
Is his conclusion based on actual facts or is he trying to force me to accept his conclusion based on facts that may or may not be actual?
Is he doing precisely what he is attacking others of doing such as using unnamed sources to “document” conclusions he is trying to make me believe?
So far the only “official” documentation I have seen from LGB or LGBoA amounts to nothing more than a legal disagreement that will have to be settled in a court somewhere.
If a woman shows up at work with a black eye and someone who does not like her husband starts wondering aloud if her husband beat her up is that “asking questions” or is it plain old “rumor mongering?”
Unless the woman is incapable of speaking why would anyone presume to speak for her and make or imply dastardly things about the husband or someone else?
A logical person would presume that if the woman was actually attacked she would not hesitate to state it for a fact.
If LGB has a confrontational relationship with LGBoA why are we not hearing that from LGB or LGBoA?
If folks who are known for having little or no LGB products and are not known for having a pro-LGB attitude are now mysteriously extremely interested and concerned about protecting poor little LGB from person or persons unknown, one has to wonder about their motivation? Do they REALLY want to help LGB or are they secretly gloating about and trying to worsen the situation?
Why would LGB (who would be unlikely to consider them close friends) be releasing internal information about internal problems at LGB to them?
You say that this site likes controversy? Then why would you suggest to me
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If you feel that someone is just trying to cause problems, ignore them.
If you want me to be “one of the guys” should you not instead be telling me to jump in and call the troll a troll?
Why would someone go to the trouble of checking out all my postings here just to claim to “interpret” the results into some sort of self serving conclusion?
Why would someone go to a different web site and run back here and start posting the names he picked up on that site and once again “interpret” the results into some sort of self serving conclusion?
I don’t feel it necessary to defend myself. I CHOOSE to respond to comments that I feel are drawing conclusions that I consider to be unsupported by facts, personal attacks or rumor mongering.
If someone sends me an email that says
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Of the five fellows that that I chat with on line or via the telephone, four had about the same comments. You always expand your comments far to much and it seems you like to mention the you have a lot of trains or the amount of. Sounds like a braggart boasting he has more than others. Oh, the other fellow said he really didn’t care as he doesn’t read the boards to much to tell. Me ? I definitely wouldn’t care to be friendly with you as you seem to be to pushy for me.
Maybe you will figure it out someday but I really don’t think so !
I wonder why my responses to his email are undeliverable?
I also wonder why he would bother to tell me he does not like me and seems to think that I should be concerned about the fact that “they” are talking about me?
Nope. I don’t care about such things. I really don’t.
I do ask a lot of questions. I don’t even care about the answers. I just wish that folks would simply figure things out for themselves instead of accepting the BS that is being spoon fed to them.
Cheers,
Jerry
That in itself is a contradiction. One who truly doesn’t care would just turn their back and say nothing…but you feel it necessary to become defensive. This is what leaves you open for attack. You just took almost 30 paragraphs to tell me you don’t care. That’s a lot of energy for a don’t care attitude.
Considering what I just said, maybe you are just reading too much into what’s being said.
