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LGB Web Sites are down

General Discussion
#1

It appears that the “international” LGB web sites (LGB.de, LGB.com, the Club forum and so on) are down. However LGBoA.com remains in operation.

LGB Club members and all others are encouraged to use www.LGBoA.com and to visit the temporary Yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LGBFamily/.

I have no information on the circumstances behind the sites being down and whether the situation is temporary or not. I would guess that something will be worked out but in the meantime www.LGBoA.com is a resource that continues to be available and will probably be the best method of finding out when LGB’s web sites may be back up again (this is nothing more than my personal opinion).

Jerry

#2
Jerry McColgan said:
It appears that the "international" LGB web sites (LGB.de, LGB.com, the Club forum and so on) are down. However LGBoA.com remains in operation.

LGB Club members and all others are encouraged to use www.LGBoA.com and to visit the temporary Yahoo group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LGBFamily/.

I have no information on the circumstances behind the sites being down and whether the situation is temporary or not. I would guess that something will be worked out but in the meantime www.LGBoA.com is a resource that continues to be available and will probably be the best method of finding out when LGB’s web sites may be back up again (this is nothing more than my personal opinion).

Jerry


Hi all,

The following message is shown on the LGB website

LGB.de said:
Die Seite kann nicht angezeigt werden Derzeit greifen zu viele Besucher auf die Website zu.

HTTP 403.9 - Zugriff verboten: Zu viele Benutzer verbunden
Internet-Informationsdienste


Translated that means:

The page can not be displayed. At present there are too many hits on the site.
HTTP 403.9 Too many users connected.

Hmmmmmmmm would that be a “Denial of Service” attack??? Would anyone have an interest in that, since EPLehmann GmbH & Co KG was to have an announcement today???

How frequent are “DoS” attacks? We/I’ve had them on the RhB Forum when certain topics were under discussion that were not to the liking of certain parties. Nothing to do with server capacity, more to do with what certain parties would like others not to read.

Of course the Internet is a very open medium, all are welcome! :wink: :slight_smile:

PS Will be interesting to read the announcement once the site is available again!

#3

Unfortunately DoS attacks are far more common than they should be…and not necessarily “topic” oriented…just vicious people trying to destroy good.

I just checked and the site’s are up. (lgb.de)

#4

Hi all,

In order to get connected to the LGB Family site use

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LGBFamily/

it is not easy to copy paste an URL, but it can be done!

BTW interesting reading on that site.

My observations: After the interesting situation at the Nürnberg Fair - certain parties apparently being persona non grata on the EP Lehmann GmbH & Co KG display - could it be that this is the next step! Does that look like a complete severance of the respective websites? Which would include the LGB Club site, as it would have to be revamped?

Interesting observation from a German Internet user who gained temporary access to the LGB.de site “Complete revamp”

#5

I tried the LGB web site once again and it is still down as is the LGB Club Forum.

I am a moderator for the LGB Club Forum and there has been no communication from LGB on the forum for some time.

It is easy to see conspiracies when one is devoted to finding them.

I suspect it is far simpler and that LGB may be setting up new web sites. I think it is far too soon to start worrying about who might be doing what.

With all that has been happening at LGB lately I don’t think the web sites being down should be that much of a surprise to anyone.

There is no harm in LGBoA having separate web sites. In fact it makes a lot of sense in that LGBoA is now independent from LGB.

Hopefully the situation is temporary and the LGB web sites will be back up again in the near future.

This computer for some reason will not recognize the new format of the LGBoA web site and I have to use a different computer to view it (apparently there is something screwed up with the Java software).

I guess I should start rumors that someone is “attacking” the LGBoA web site.

Cheers,

Jerry

#6

Maybe they’re just blocking YOU, Jerry.

#7
Jerry McColgan said:
I tried the LGB web site once again and it is still down as is the LGB Club Forum.

I am a moderator for the LGB Club Forum and there has been no communication from LGB on the forum for some time.

It is easy to see conspiracies when one is devoted to finding them.

I suspect it is far simpler and that LGB may be setting up new web sites. I think it is far too soon to start worrying about who might be doing what.

With all that has been happening at LGB lately I don’t think the web sites being down should be that much of a surprise to anyone.

There is no harm in LGBoA having separate web sites. In fact it makes a lot of sense in that LGBoA is now independent from LGB.

Hopefully the situation is temporary and the LGB web sites will be back up again in the near future.

This computer for some reason will not recognize the new format of the LGBoA web site and I have to use a different computer to view it (apparently there is something screwed up with the Java software).

I guess I should start rumors that someone is “attacking” the LGBoA web site.

Cheers,

Jerry


Jerry,

As a rule I just go by the indications that are presented on the Internet. That’s what error codes are for i.e. if an URL doesn’t work check first if the syntax of that URL conforms.

If the error code mentions “too many visitors trying to access”, welllllll I guess there are too many visitors. Once that is mentioned those of us who know a bit more about the Internet may surmise a few things.
Most of those who are working with the Internet in some form i.e. running websites and fora, have most likely learned a few things while doing that.

OTOH there are those who “don’t give a hoot” just as long as whatever they want to access works. Hmmmmmmmm there are certain similarities with how one looks at a hobby, too, don’t you think??? Don’t sweat the details???

Regarding those rumours: Perhaps you need a better dictionary in order to discern between questions and rumours.

Asking the “right” questions is certainly different from rumours. The rumours we generally leave to those people who access all the “reliable sources”, which for some strange reason can’t be quoted/cited as originators in print. Curious situation, isn’t it?? :lol: :lol:

#8
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
OTOH there are those who "don't give a hoot" just as long as whatever they want to access works. Hmmmmmmmm there are certain similarities with how one looks at a hobby, too, don't you think??? Don't sweat the details???
Hi HJ,

You are absolutely correct! I for one “don’t give a hoot” just as long as whatever I want to access works.

You are also correct in that I for one “don’t give a hoot” just as long as whatever toys I want to play with work.

I am in this hobby strictly for my personal entertainment. As long as my toys work and I have a place to get them fixed if they break I am perfectly happy.

If someone else wants to know everything about what is happening “behind the scenes” that is perfectly OK with me but it is of little interest to me.

The good news is that I was just able to log onto the LGB Club Forum and the LGB.de web site seems to be partially functioning (which I expect suggests that it will soon be fully operational again).

Actually it may have served a good purpose in that it is nice to know that LGBoA has an independent web site and forum so we have somewhere to go if and when the LGB sites may have some temporary difficulties.

Cheers,

Jerry

#9

Hi all,

Some statistics from the first 24 posts on the YAHOO! Group LGB Family site:

Total posts - 24

15 posts in total by Dave Buffington, Jack Barton, Ken Fillar, Jerry McColgan and Larry Otis. (In alphabetical order rather than order of importance). It’s the LGB Family! :smiley: :wink: :smiley:

Since I’ve set-up a few fora in my time, I wonder why they wouldn’t set up a full-fledged forum instead of a poor substitute? But there must be reasons, perhaps the shutdown of the LGB Club Forum in its previous form came as a huge surprise, is that possible??

Setting up a phpBB forum takes a minimum of time e.g. about two hours from start to finish. Doing it in two languages with a joint user database takes another hour. All in less than half a day’s work. :wink: :slight_smile:

#10
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
15 posts in total by Dave Buffington, Jack Barton, Ken Fillar, Jerry McColgan and Larry Otis. (In alphabetical order rather than order of importance). It's the LGB Family! :D ;) :D
Hi HJ,

I’d forgotten how entertaining your posts can be.

What part of "the temporary Yahoo group " did you not understand?

Nobody is or has been suggesting that this is anything but “T - E - M - P - O - R - A - R - Y”

I always thought it was up to whoever elected to build a site to decide what their content and format would be.

I find your challenges regarding the site to be somewhat indicative of your biased approach against everything that has anything to do with LGB or LGBoA.

Relax. I’m sure you will be able to find a more formidable target to joust with. This one is only temporary.

“I wonder why they wouldn’t set up a full-fledged forum instead of a poor substitute?”

Gee. Maybe they did not want to put a lot of effort into a temporary forum. Ya think?

Cheers,

Jerry

#11
Jerry McColgan said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
15 posts in total by Dave Buffington, Jack Barton, Ken Fillar, Jerry McColgan and Larry Otis. (In alphabetical order rather than order of importance). It's the LGB Family! :D ;) :D
Hi HJ,

I’d forgotten how entertaining your posts can be.

What part of "the temporary Yahoo group " did you not understand?

Nobody is or has been suggesting that this is anything but “T - E - M - P - O - R - A - R - Y”

I always thought it was up to whoever elected to build a site to decide what their content and format would be.

I find your challenges regarding the site to be somewhat indicative of your biased approach against everything that has anything to do with LGB or LGBoA.

Relax. I’m sure you will be able to find a more formidable target to joust with. This one is only temporary.

“I wonder why they wouldn’t set up a full-fledged forum instead of a poor substitute?”

Gee. Maybe they did not want to put a lot of effort into a temporary forum. Ya think?

Cheers,

Jerry


Jerry,

Re-read my post and you’ll discover that a full-fledged forum is all of two hours work.

Caught flat-footed, were you??? :wink: :wink: :wink:

Oooops, I forgot, you’re just a Moderator on the LGB Club Forum. Nothing to do with admin and/or maintenance.

#12
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Jerry,

Re-read my post and you’ll discover that a full-fledged forum is all of two hours work.

Caught flat-footed, were you??? :wink: :wink: :wink:

Oooops, I forgot, you’re just a Moderator on the LGB Club Forum. Nothing to do with admin and/or maintenance.


Bye HJ,

I started this topic about the LGB sites being down. They seem to be getting back up again. I don’t recall mentioning anything about how to build web sites.

As usual you are attempting to hijack someone else’s topic and use it to launch yet another of your anti-LGB diatribes. I’m personally pretty darn tired of listening to them.

If you wish to convince everyone how brilliant you are at building web sites you will need to start your own topic and find yourself another playmate.

I only play with toy trains. Remember?

Cheers,

Jerry

#13

Well , here I am , tottering on the edge , and decide to try to look at my favourite site .
Then I find that the despicable hans is still at it .
So I shall go back to bed satisfied that I have missed nothing .
When are you people going to wake up and get rid of the swiss cheese? He’s nothing but a bloody nuisance , and is stopping genuine contributors from bothering .

Mike , sick of it all .

#14

On March 20th there’s a 2nd anniversary coming up.

Time flies!

#15

Um…who " is stopping genuine contributors from bothering ."?

Can never seem to shut Jerry up…Fritz Andreas Zirner may show…then there’s Mike when suddenly it looks like someone wants to get a thread to turn nasty…maybe JJ can show up, or the Town whatever.

Can you enlighten me on who is stopping genuine contributors?
And how do you define genuine contributors?

#16
HJ said:
Would anyone have an interest in that, since EPLehmann GmbH & Co KG was to have an announcement today????
Since "today" is already "tomorrow" in the Fatherland, has anybody heard what that announcement was about??
#17
Warren Mumpower said:
HJ said:
Would anyone have an interest in that, since EPLehmann GmbH & Co KG was to have an announcement today????
Since "today" is already "tomorrow" in the Fatherland, has anybody heard what that announcement was about??
Warren et al,

There was no announcement - the German crowd was really disappointed and the patience, even from at least one dealer, is wearing thin.

There are no further proclamations on the Insolvency Court website regarding the Ernst Paul Lehmann Patentwerk OHG, there are no recent Newspaper articles regarding the matter. The only thing that is churning furiously is the rumour mill fed by all the “reliable sources”.

There is one thing that is confirmed: at present there is again a complete delivery stop at EPL, other than spare parts which still reach the customers (warranty stipulations??).
I guess each of us can put the information pieces together whichever way we think they fit. :wink: :slight_smile:

#18

I was at the LGBoA site a little while ago and everything was working fine…EXCEPT…the products pages…:frowning: I could no longer find Spotted Deer on the site but that site is still working. Shopatron was still there.

#19
Warren Mumpower said:
I was at the LGBoA site a little while ago and everything was working fine.....EXCEPT...the products pages...:( I could no longer find Spotted Deer on the site but that site is still working. Shopatron was still there.
Warren,

The products pages on the LGBoA site are referenced to the LGB.de database.

LGB.de was running again but in a peculiar fashion, some of the frames are missing. Oh well, the web mavens have all weekend to get it straightened out. :wink: :slight_smile:

PS On the maintenance question i.e. when and how. Some people have a test site on the same server on which they try out updates and reconfigs. Works very well, thank you very much. :wink: :slight_smile:
OTOH if I consider the number of glitches and goof-ups on the LGB sites over the years … this is just one of many!

#20
Curmudgeon said:
Um.....who " is stopping genuine contributors from bothering ."?

Can never seem to shut Jerry up


Hi Dave,

Just to put things in perspective:

Jerry McColgan
Member
From: Austin
Joined: 2000-11-10
Posts: 26

That amounts to an average of about four (4) posts by me on LSC PER YEAR!

I might add that the last time I posted here on LSC was in response to a private email I had received FROM YOU suggesting that I come here to LSC to read what you and HJ were saying here.

I got fed up with the negativity back then and did not return until now.

Once again I am fed up with the negativity and will leave again.

I posted this single topic and I get a private email that says:

“You sure have a way to stir people up and it seems that it is one of the things you do so well !!!”

You guys live in a world of your own and it is a world that I choose not to coexist in.

You take a topic that I started which was a simple post about a web site being down and you turn it into vindictive bickering and insinuations about which you provide absolutely no evidence to back it up and then have the nerve to accuse me of starting something.

This topic is a perfect display of why I stopped being an active participant of LSC.

It is truly unfortunate in that I used to really like LSC.

Bye,

Jerry