Warren ,
A thousand pardons , I had not intended to miss you out . You did speak out , as you would be expected to do .
So thanks for the support for Fred .
How ya keepin’ anyway ?
Mike
Tony ,
Of course I know what irony is , it’s the stuff that steely is made from .
Your response , using irony , is typical of someone who wants to hedge his bets so that when the wind blows , he can go with the flow .
Because I am not in any way likely to be a customer of yours ( I already use DECENT R/C stuff ) you have decided that I am a good target . So carry on , old thing , I hardly use the site anyway .
But support for someone should be overt , not couched in vague ambiguities .
Mike
hans , we do so understand each other .
Mike
In so far as irony, then it is indeed ironic that Tony’s comment passed straight over the head of some. While not a great fan of English humour (who actually is?), one would think that a country that inspired the language would at least have the capability to use the language as it has evolved. What is the point of using a commonly accepted language, when natives from the country are not able to decipher the inticacies of their own language. Nothing overt in my comment, as it is a simple statement, not open to irony or sarcasm.
I saw nothing overt in Tony’s response and saw it only as support for Fred. I suppose that one really needs to be subjected to over one hundred years of cruel and unjust punishment in a former English penal settlement, under the guise of colonialism and a further one hundred years of kissing royal posteriors to understand the Australian psyche.
My original thought was that the padre was experienced enough to weather any storm, without need for a pilot to guide him to a safe harbour. Mike’s response more inflamed the situation and it is indeed ironic that the original poster who condemmed the man for expressing his point of view, actually cited the right for he, personally to cite his own point of view. Now that is irony!!!
No , mate , that isn’t irony .
It’s sheer bloody arrogance condescending to give the victim the right to a point of view .
Mike
Tim,
Very little to do with country of origin or language, much more to do with personality. 
This latest turn - starting after my “Yipes indeed” reply to Wendell - is just one more indication.
But there was a book review in the “G&M” not long ago about a certain tribe that could explain some of it.
hans ,
we know that English is not your first language so we can sympathise with your difficulty in communicating without convolution .
May I suggest that you read and understand a "Dictionary of Concise English " Learn that , then move on to the more erudite "Concise Dictionary of English "
No , don’t thank me , anything to help .
your friend ,
Mike
Mike Morgan said:
hans , we know that English is not your first language so we can sympathise with your difficulty in communicating without convolution . May I suggest that you read and understand a "Dictionary of Concise English " Learn that , then move on to the more erudite "Concise Dictionary of English " No , don't thank me , anything to help .your friend ,
Mike
DNFTFT
Mike Morgan said:
You deserve what you get , including hans .Mike
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:geshunteit
You're welcome! :)
Steve Featherkile said:
Mike Morgan said:
You deserve what you get , including hans . MikeHans-Joerg Mueller said:
You’re welcome!geshunteit
Hey Steve, Is that the same as “touché”??
BTW we finally get some gentle rain today, so far just enough to keep the dust down. If it keeps up it will be nicer to trench that electrical line to the pond.
We learned many years ago vai the Polkfolk, that when you lose an argument, especially to facts, you then get personal.
Well, couple of things here.
Bets are Mike has been thrown off another forum.
And, his only possible response to his lost argument is to get personal.
Good job, Mike!
I expected absolutely nothing less!
Oh, and better than you have tried that “I’m not going to buy your stuff” argument.
Funny thing is, they never intended to in the first place.
Just one of those “pity-party” ploys that never works.
I suppose the next one will be “I’m leaving in a huff!
Nobody likes me! Everybody hates me!”.
Well, sorry to say, nobody is going to give you the McMoron pitch of “oh, please stay, we value your input” crap.
Now, in this thread all posts by Mike have had exactly how much helpful substance?
And how many attacks?
David , dear
I am not a member of any other forum , I only came back to look at this because I was asked to .
So here you are , jumpimg in to help poor old hans again . Holding hands under the table , are we ? You see , I can be just as childish as you .
Now grow up and make some sensible contributions .
Mike
Not helping anybody.
There you go again.
Sometimes I think you are a “Death Star”, just spewing forth artillery willy-nilly.
I didn’t mention HJ anywhere.
What, guilty conscience?
You know I just sent my 6 and 10 year granddaughters home today… I had similar coversations with them over the last week when they were arguing over a toy or about cleaning up their room. Most were as intelligent and most were more polite than I’ve read in bulk of this thread.
Who knows the whole story??? Where is the documentation to prove it?
It seems that some of the folks have their panties in a wad because of change to the ‘Mothership’…some because of lack of information…some well just because… and it seems almost everyone is picking a someone else…such a shame…
I love this hobby and originally wrote a much longer epistle, but decided the better of it since I’ve made my opinions on these issues known in other threads in this and other forums earlier in the “saga” and I’ve come to realize I really do not enjoy the constant bickering over the topic of the future of LGB. t reminds me to much of my job and career before I retired from a very “Dilbert” like company…it will be whatever it will be…I guess I should just choose not to read or engage…
Mark
While my comments were strongly worded, I don’t feel I said anything that I need to apologise for. How many insults have flown in this thread?
Dave W mentioned computer control and was insulted for it.
I expressed interest in the same and was insulted.
Although poorly written, I attempted to save Steve a few bucks on his fuse bill with an old solution and I was eventually insulted for it.
“Curmudgeon” takes a prize when he said, in effect, that he wasn’t insulting anyone. Just expressing his amazement at how clueless we were.
I spoke my mind and I stand by it. The spirit of these forums (fora?) is about the exchange of ideas and helping each other to enjoy our mutual hobby. And yet too often it seems that whenever the duscussion gets a bit lateral, someone steps in to quash it, claiming that the only legal way to participate in the hobby is to do it “my way”. This pressure to conform may be why we have 3 Big Boys on the market and not a single 2-6-2.
And to the poster who called me a “young idiot”, I thank you. I’ve been called an idiot many times in life, but I haven’t been called “young” for a long time.
Kevin, me lad, what the Hell are you doing up at this unholy hour?
Come to that, what the Hell am I doing up at this unholy hour?
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Steve Featherkile said:
Mike Morgan said:
You deserve what you get , including hans . MikeHans-Joerg Mueller said:
You’re welcome!geshunteit
Hey Steve, Is that the same as “touché”??
No, I thought somebody sneezed. 
Kevin Morris said:Hans-Joerg Mueller said:Steve Featherkile said:
Kevin,Not sure where you went with your last on this topic. Of course, that could be because I really do not understand electricity. Can you run it by again, just a bit slower?
Sheesh Steve,Kevin plans to have different wattage 12V automotive bulbs built into his throttle along with a rotary switch to select which bulb is in the circuit for which engine.
If nothing else it will be an interesting looking gizmo.
Yeah. What he said. But some more detail if you’re interested.Anywhere between the throttle and the track (it doesn’t have to be physically in the throttle) you could install a rotary switch with, say, 8 positions. If operating at 12V, position 1 would be 1Amp max. using a 12Watt bulb. Position 2 could be 1.5A with an 18Watt bulb. 2amps would require a 24Watt bulb (an automotive brake light might be correct). Etc. 10 amps would need a whopping 120Watt bulb but you could get that with several smaller bulbs in parallel.
I have no idea what this would do to a DCC decoder. I can’t see that it would have any effect, but I can’t say for sure.
The beauty of this is that with fuses, each short circuit costs you a buck. Electro-mechanical circuit breakers are too slow. This technique, which is common in small scale controllers, gives good protection and the glowing light bulb tells you you’ve got a short or that your loco needs a bit more amperage. You could substitute resistors for light bulbs but then you wouldn’t get the visual indication of trouble.
I’d draw up a circuit and post it but I have no way to post it here (I’m too cheap to pay the $20).
OK, I’m trying to understand this. My locomotive is innocently trundling down the track, drawing, say, three amps at 14 volts, just for arguments sake. Some 1:29 kid puts a derailer on the track that he got at the swapmeet. My engineer sees it in time to prevent a total disaster, but not in time to prevent derailing the pilot truck, which then shorts out the line. The special light comes on in the throttle, indicating a problem. What I don’t understand is how does this prevent the magic smoke from being released from the locomotive? There seems to be some assumed knowledge that I do not have. What am I missing?
This posting thread defines the very essence of this forum, free-minded spiritted discussion with the occasional insult thrown in to stir the pot. This is why I like this site, a bit of lateral freedom and discussion. Now if it were another well known site or a site across the pond then the forum force would be out with the eraser removing all the freedom and spirit, leaving a sterile shell. We are all a little thick-skinned and essentially enjoy the banter, so much better than discussing whose turn it was to bring the cake.
…to heck with cake…I’ll treat the bheer…!!!