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It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks

General Discussion
#1

I heard on Paul Harvey this morning that Al-Quaeda training camps are infested with Bubonic Plague.

Have you had your plague shots?

Could this be a re-introduction of the first form of biological warfare as practiced by Genghis Kahn? He used catapults to introduce live plague victims into cities that would not surrender. He did not use dead one because the fleas would leave them. The live ones would soon die as a result of their short flight, the fleas would find a new home, and "Bada-bing, bada-boom, everybody has the plague. Some would escape out the back door of the city, Gengis would let them go, they would arrive in the next city, and pretty soon, you have a pandemic. This is what started the “Black Death” in the middle ages.

Is this an accident, or part of their plan?

#2

More likely due to their fabulous modern plumbing systems over there.

Thats one thing about hard-core Muslim extremism I’ve never understood, how they can stand in a dirty cave, or on a pile of dusty rubble surrounded by trash and say with a straight face “This is what we offer to all the rest of the decadent world”

Somehow I never considered working plumbing, basic medicine and basic hygene to be “western decadence”

Good riddence, can’t think of a better way for those morons to go, slow and pustulated.

#3

An overlooked news item out of Algeria puts to rest that notion. The report says that an al-Qaida affiliate there abruptly closed a mountain training base after an experiment with biological weapons went wrong.

A U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition he not be named, confirmed the accident that led to a shutdown of the training facility in Tizi Ouzou, a province in eastern Algeria.
A report by the Sun, a British tabloid, said at least 40 operatives belonging to al-Qaida in the Land of the Maghreb (AQLIM), an al-Qaida affiliate in North Africa, were killed in a training accident.

From the sound of it, they were likely killed by a strain of the bubonic plague — the deadly rat-borne bacterial disease that ravaged much of the world in the 13th and 14th century, wiping out fully a third of Europe’s population. An airborne version, pneumonic plague, is equally deadly.

The details are horrific. The Algerian victims were said to be afflicted with horrible boils in different parts of their bodies, dying in excruciating pain after just a few hours. It’s an awful way to die.

#4

Sounds like a bunch of radicals expecting their religion to shield them from biological reality.

Mess with powers and energies you dont understand and you will get burned. Glad this happened on their soil, hopefully that which was exposed was all there was.

#5
Ken Brunt said:
An overlooked news item out of Algeria puts to rest that notion. The report says that an al-Qaida affiliate there abruptly closed a mountain training base after an experiment with biological weapons went wrong.

A U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition he not be named, confirmed the accident that led to a shutdown of the training facility in Tizi Ouzou, a province in eastern Algeria.
A report by the Sun, a British tabloid, said at least 40 operatives belonging to al-Qaida in the Land of the Maghreb (AQLIM), an al-Qaida affiliate in North Africa, were killed in a training accident.

From the sound of it, they were likely killed by a strain of the bubonic plague — the deadly rat-borne bacterial disease that ravaged much of the world in the 13th and 14th century, wiping out fully a third of Europe’s population. An airborne version, pneumonic plague, is equally deadly.

The details are horrific. The Algerian victims were said to be afflicted with horrible boils in different parts of their bodies, dying in excruciating pain after just a few hours. It’s an awful way to die.


Ken - do you have a link to that report?

#6

This is probably not the only location Al-Qaida is working with biological weapons.
Just because they failed at this camp, it is unlikely they have given up on biological weapons.
Although it is good they failed, this is bad news.
Ralph

#7

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480864,00.html

I would argue that being on a hijacked aircraft being crashed into buildings was no way to die, either.
I would further argue that being IN those buildings was no way to die, either.

#8

Nice people:

http://www.ennaharonline.com/en/news/173.html

#9
Curmudgeon said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480864,00.html

I would argue that being on a hijacked aircraft being crashed into buildings was no way to die, either.
I would further argue that being IN those buildings was no way to die, either.


I agree. I feel no sympathy for those involved, no matter how cruel their death.
But the fact that Al-Qaida is working on biological weapons is bad news. Not unexpected, but bad none the less.
Ralph

#10

Listed as one of the few things that could wipe most of us out besides Gamma rays, a collision with a comet or asteroid, is biological.
I have no sympathy for these sub-humans, but fear something could be delivered to the US.
We have to tighten security more.

#11

Anyone remember the big fuss when it was announced they had found evidence about atom bomb building literature in Afghanistan that turned out to be downloaded from a gag site.

http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/2001/11/16/atomic-parody-fools-taliban-according/

Still kinda wonder about this here as well, namely unskilled, untrained people dabbling with extremely deadly materials getting only themselves killed in the process due to their own hubris.

Like I said, glad it was them and no one else in Algiers, or Spain or France or anywhere else. I’m also reminded that the planes on 9-11 also took with them some of there better planners, kind of a self defeating process going on here where the best thinkers get killed carrying out or in this case attempting to carry out there plans, leaving an intellectual vacuum in their wake. Hopefully this event killed off all their “experts” in this particular field. One can only hope.

#12
Steve Featherkile said:
Ken Brunt said:
An overlooked news item out of Algeria puts to rest that notion. The report says that an al-Qaida affiliate there abruptly closed a mountain training base after an experiment with biological weapons went wrong.

A U.S. intelligence official, speaking on condition he not be named, confirmed the accident that led to a shutdown of the training facility in Tizi Ouzou, a province in eastern Algeria.
A report by the Sun, a British tabloid, said at least 40 operatives belonging to al-Qaida in the Land of the Maghreb (AQLIM), an al-Qaida affiliate in North Africa, were killed in a training accident.

From the sound of it, they were likely killed by a strain of the bubonic plague — the deadly rat-borne bacterial disease that ravaged much of the world in the 13th and 14th century, wiping out fully a third of Europe’s population. An airborne version, pneumonic plague, is equally deadly.

The details are horrific. The Algerian victims were said to be afflicted with horrible boils in different parts of their bodies, dying in excruciating pain after just a few hours. It’s an awful way to die.


Ken - do you have a link to that report?

Yup… http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=317348148353832

#13

Thanks, Ken.

Like the preacher said to President Obama today at the National Cathedral, “Tag, you’re it!”

Whatever happens from now on, happens on Obama’s watch. I hope he is at least as good as Bush was in keeping us safe.

#14

(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/aria09012120090120033318.jpg)

#15

“Like the preacher said to President Obama today at the National Cathedral, “Tag, you’re it!””

I figure that’s what the note from #43 to #44 says.

#16

I hadn’t heard of this until now. While unleashing a bio threat is bad for everyone I’m glad it worked out for the worse on their end. But as a side note, the plague is alive and well in several places around the world including the western US. Kinda funny how mother nature keeps things in check by her own means isn’t it?

Did anyone read the latest test results on the influenza strain that wiped out most of the world during the last pandemic? Not only is it alive and doing very well, they have been doing a great deal of work with it lately. Apparently it’s still one hell of a bad, hardy bug. I remember getting worried about it when they first retrieved it from an old Eskimo encampment in Alaska about 15 years ago. But now…

Jon.

#17
Ken Brunt said:
It's an awful way to die.
So is being beheaded live on TV.

I hope it hurt a lot.

Ever such a lot.

tac

#18

I wonder if I have any residual immunity from all those plague shots I took during 22 years of active military service. According to the book, the two shot series had to be repeated every two years. Maybe after eleven of the series I might be lucky.

#19
Terry A de C Foley said:
Ken Brunt said:
It's an awful way to die.
So is being beheaded live on TV.

I hope it hurt a lot.

Ever such a lot.

tac
www.ovgrs.org


Yea, and took a long time…

#20
John Bouck said:
We have to tighten security more.
Maybe take a leaf from the Japanese book: index finger and iris scans to enter the country at Narita.

Or maybe the Aussies: X-ray scans of all incoming baggage at Perth.

Certainly not like the Detroit - Hartford flight I was on a few days after Christmas: rave on about restrictions concerning liquids in the cabin, then just let ‘em on the plane with the same size water bottles that get confiscated at other countries’ airports.

Now it may be that the liquids-in-the-cabin caper is paranoid. I neither know nor care. I do know it’s both dumb and dangerous to make a regulation prohibiting liquids in containers above a certain size and not enforce it.

Give me the Qantas pilot backing out of the gate at Singapore who was told he had a couple of morons pestering other passengers with their loutish behaviour as he backed out of the gate. He pulled back in and ejected them. By the time their luggage was off-loaded and the plane re-fuelled, we left over an hour late.

I made it my business to let Qantas know how pleased I was that their captain had the guts to risk the wrath of the bean counters. I like the pilots of the commercial planes I fly to come from the “take no chances” school.

The US needs to do more about security. The new ESTA visa program is a step in the right direction.