Vic Smith said:
I know, don’t love watch them worm around Emotions boys emotions.
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Yes they need to be factual and objective. The objective of a review is: advising the potential buyer what he will get for x amount of money.
Good reviewers look at it from a buyers point i.e. as if the reviewer would buy the item. Which is the next point. To get a factual and objective review the reviewer buys his sample off the shelf from a retailer — with his own money. This point is quite realistic with LS products, but works best if the reviewer would buy the product in any case. The appreciation what the consumer gets or doesn’t get increases correspondingly.
HJ,
Good summary of what a good review should be. I would add one thing. A bit of background research on the prototype, say the “5 W’s” Who, What, Where, When. For prototype modelers this would be a huge benefit, or even those that are just curious about the timeframe of the prototype. But then again I’m the kind of reviewer that looks at the model down the the last ‘missing’ rivet! 
Yep, that particular tender had 49 rivets on the starboard side, but only 47 on the port side. This model has 47 on both sides. FAIL! 
Steve Featherkile said:
Yep, that particular tender had 49 rivets on the starboard side, but only 47 on the port side. This model has 47 on both sides. FAIL!
Not quite, but seems to me we hear the “I have no idea what was actually on the prototype” often enough to justify a bit (or quite a bit more) of background info.
GARTENBAHNprofi (the German mag) runs several pages on the prototype — including the various incarnations — in the same issue as the multi page review of the model. That way some of the “novices” even get to see what kind of consists were typically pulled. One just never knows they may pick up a thing or two.
Steve Featherkile said:
Yep, that particular tender had 49 rivets on the starboard side, but only 47 on the port side. This model has 47 on both sides. FAIL!
Well at least then the consumer would have the knowledge, and then could make a personal choice about the cost, and value. Not having this information doesn’t help the consumer. Substitute rivets for anything and you’ll see my issue…
Mark Dash said:
Ya know, the last month or so of this forum has been really good with a lot of activity about TRAINS, many exciting builds in the Mik’s challenge plus Roosters and Marconi’s builds to boot.
Its too bad a few of you less fortunate modelers (or should I say hobbiest because you haven’t proved to be modelers yet)have to stir up drama and contoversy to get your post counts higher
Y’all need to go play with trains or something, this cold weather is gettin to ya
Oh stay tuned for a post from Scott Polk, their container passed customs yesterday and has items long out of stock…
So Mark are you saying that only modelers and not hobbyists’can have a say on this subject?
Just asking.
Regards,
LAO
Nick S. said:
Vic Smith said:
I know, don’t love watch them worm around Emotions boys emotions.
Its the 3D glasses, they make watching something special
Craig Townsend said:
Steve Featherkile said:
Yep, that particular tender had 49 rivets on the starboard side, but only 47 on the port side. This model has 47 on both sides. FAIL!
Well at least then the consumer would have the knowledge, and then could make a personal choice about the cost, and value. Not having this information doesn’t help the consumer. Substitute rivets for anything and you’ll see my issue…
I know, Craig, but sometimes I just can’t help myself. When the model follows the prototype of April 17, 1947, just before its 3rd shopping, and the rivet counter criticizes it because it isn’t “as built,” then I get a little crazy. I’m on your side, really, I am.
Back to the opening topic -
I’ve been waiting to hear that those long-promised downloadable Revo sound files were available. I haven’t bought a Revo yet because I can’t use promises, especially from someone, with a reputation (sorry, sad but true) for talking through his hat.
I’ll believe it when I see it, and if all reports are good, at that point the mfr will see the color of my money.
Until then I’ll muddle through with other RC systems, and settle for sort of adequate sound. Usually I turn the sound off actually, as to be honest I find it annoying unless it’s really good.
With all this talk anout the Brave New World of downloadable sounds, I think it’d be great if we could also get jazz and classical music from our locos’ speakers. I’d love that!
I believe that these advances are probably very simple in this marvellous digital age. I have little doubt that once the right partnerships are formed, adequate investments, probably fairly small and in exchange for a share, will be forthcoming, and all these goodies will come to us sooner or later. I look forward to that day, and I wish the best of good fortune to all who may be working towards it.
John, the Zimo decoder can be loaded with songs!!
I have done 2 Aristo eggliners (Bee version) with flight of the bumblebee.
And that was 2 years ago.
Of course there is limited memory space, only enough for one song.
I am also waiting on the downloadable sounds to pull the trigger on the Revo.
I suspect many others are too.
I wish they’d hurry up. I’ve got enough batteries for 4 locomotives, just waiting on them
Ralph
Ralph Berg said:
I am also waiting on the downloadable sounds to pull the trigger on the Revo.
I suspect many others are too.
I wish they’d hurry up. I’ve got enough batteries for 4 locomotives, just waiting on them
Ralph
I like Navin and I’m glad he was able to get this product line, however I doubt he is flush with capital so anything new will likely take a long time. Revo is a pretty good system, but I’d look at alternatives instead of waiting.
Don’t hold your breath. I asked Navin about it last year. His reply, on November 19, 2013:
Bruce, We have the USB plug in stock but we cannot ship as yet because we are working on the web file for downloads. You will received conformation when the USB is ready.
I fixed my web site in less than a week, but then I’m not a professional.
And, to be fair, you can’t download from my site. 
Gentlemen, send them an e-mail or give them a ring. Maybe you will get an idea how long it will be.
I don’t think they really know. Later RJD
It seems to me that if you have a product to sell, then the ‘quality’ of the website is irrelevant. As regards the site download issues as a reason for not introducing to the market, I am sure any competent webmaster could deal with that issue in a few hours.
Maybe, the boys could start using Farcebook for sales as it seems their preferred medium.
By default a file that is not an Internet Media Type will download using a web browser.
It take no effort to make files downloadable from a website.
Andrew
Garratt Steam said:
By default a file that is not an Internet Media Type will download using a web browser.
It take no effort to make files downloadable from a website.Andrew
Andrew,
I doubt very much that this delay is related to the website download, that truly is a piece of cake.
Assembling sound files that will deliver proper proto sound in conjunction with what the motor does and what the operator calls for is a different story. Add to that the fact that the Revolution can be added to whatever engine one desires, this will call for
- — some software that will enable the user to roll his own
- — sufficient ready-to-load sound files to at least cover the engine types that used to be available from Aristo
Yes I know, it’s another one of those crazy notions of mine. AND it will take some resources, both monetary and talent. Of course I shouldn’t mention that, it can’t possibly be true.
