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Information Needed To Identify This Locomotive

Hello to everyone!
I was just wondering if anyone could identify this locomotive.
I won this on a bid on Ebay yesterday and thought maybe I could complete this Alaska model but I can’t identify who the manufacturer is, other than the Northwest Shortline trucks.
I think it’s an SD35 but not sure. It doesn’t seem to have USA Trains characteristics but I hope I can modify USA parts to finish it.
Not sure if Northwest Shortline ever produced actual models or not?
I also realized too late that I didn’t know the scale either because I don’t know the manufacturer. The seller had limited to no information.
Just thought maybe someone might recognize it, so I could find out further information to refurbish it.
The locomotive will be here in 7 days, so I can’t get any more photos than what I have here from Ebay currently, at least until it arrives.
Appreciate any help.
Can reply evenings only!

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Thanks so much!

Kenneth Mathews
Imagination Station Kids On Track Model Railroad And Train Safety Program

I wonder if it is an Aristocraft GP40 body with the NWSL trucks? They had the 3 fans on the back whereas the USAT GP38 had 2.

Does look like one.

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If it’s an Aristo, then it’s been heavily modified. More likely a 1:32 scale model from St Charles Station or another cottage manufacturer. Those fan guards look like brass.

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I tend to agree with Dan. The Aristo model does not have a dynamic braking vent and this one does. Also the Aristo would have power plugs on the front and back near the coupler for battery operation however they could have been cut off.
If it is an aristo then the hatch with exhaust vent would/should lift off exposing the main circuit board switches.

I’ve never heard of North Star Railway Models but when it arrives, I’ll check the hatch cover to see if it’s removable and by Aristocraft but not sure?
I find it kinda strange if it is by a manufacturer other than Aristocraft that they didn’t install windows, cab seating, consoles and other details in their models.
Hope it at least has headlights?
I have a sneaky suspicion that Dan is correct in that it was manufactured by North Star Railway Models.
Too many parts don’t match other manufacturers.
I contacted the seller again who says that the original owner passed and they found it in a box but since they aren’t into model trains they can’t tell me anything else about it.
They only listed 6 G scale items on Ebay of which all were odd or custom like a snowplow they had.
They are also a new seller.

That Ad is from 1996.
Highly unlikely it’s Aristo-Craft. Too many differences.

I know North Star did produce and sell some GP38’s as I have seen them resale. If it is a North Star it’s possibly a proto sample GP40.

Well Ken, from my knowledge if it turns out to be St. Charles Station (which I doubt) I believe you got an all metal model. I have never seen a GP40 but their FP45 was pretty sweet in 1:32 for back in the day. I have never seen or heard of North Star myself so I cannot say anything about it.

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Good point Rooster!
I was wondering, what’s the difference between the 35 and 40?

The most noticeable visual difference is the GP40 has 3 large radiator fans and the GP35 has 2 large and one small fan in the middle.

Thanks Dan. Learn something new every day.

I have a Great Trains 1/32nd scale model that seems very close to this but not quite. It has the 3 fans in back but not the one in front. Has NWSL trucks. Guy I got it from said he got it at the Queen Elizabeth train show way back when. I’ve had it for 10 years or so.IMG_3014
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I’ve actually not seen one like yours before. Didn’t know Ralph made one of those but that’s actually really nice. Yea, it’s a bit different from what I can see and to tell you the truth, I don’t know the scale or size of this locomotive until it gets here. We have a Great Trains F40 PH Amtrak and I custom built the VIA Rail F40 PH one guage locomotive in the photos.





We also have Superliner cars in one guage and just about everything else, size wise anyway,. Ether way it should fit in ok. Just hope I can find suitable parts?? Some USA parts may work, I hope.

Gotta get it in your hands first so we can figure out what you got.

Agreed, I’ll post more photos when it arrives.

Hello again,
Just thought I’d update this post.
After receiving the locomotive shown above, I’ve discovered that it is in fact not a metal model. The frame is 1/4 inch aluminum and the body appears to be a very sturdy type of plastic.
Inside the shell on the frame is the text; “GP40” written in permanent marker (2nd photo) and the letters EM are engraved into the bottom of the metal fuel tank which is open throughout its length, as in the photos.
Unfortunately the locomotive had some minor damage from shipping, so I have had to rebuild the front section and do some painting to the undercarriage, handrails, (which are all brass) and install grease ports into the bottom of the Northwest Shortline trucks. The gears are metal but had never seen grease and nothing had been oiled on the motor trucks. All maintenance was completed immediately and the model runs flawless with unbelievable power. It pulled the test track off of a carpeted board with no weights and we couldn’t even hang on to the locomotive chassis.
I have a good portion of the parts I need, except L.E.D. headlights, (both front and back that Id like to replace the incandescent ones with) side grating for air intake, number boards, headlight lenses, windshield wipers and all cab windows. Cab windows and number board lenses are going to be a bit hard to find and install into a model that never had them.




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I found and added chassis parts and will add graphics and clear coat the engine before adding windows and lights.
Somehow I think this may have been an original but I’m still not sure of the manufacturer. Everything is so different than all the G scale manufacturers I’ve seen over the years. I hope the photos I’m providing will help someone determine the manufacturer.
The grating is going to be extremely tough to find and match and even though I’ll probably never get this engine perfect it should turn out ok, if I can get it refurbished.
I’m unsure that it is a 1/32nd scale model as you can see by the photo comparison provided next to my Great Trains Amtrak VIA Rail and even that it is a 1/29th scale model as in photo comparison of the Aristocraft BNSF Dash 9?
If I need to take further photos, please let me know because I’d be happy to do so.
Note that the chassis, motors and handrails are done, so I won’t be able to disassemble them again. This was a 6 hour job by itself due to the damage on arrival due to poor packing and shipping.
I have an LM2596 DC L.E.D. lighting board which is available on Ebay for $4.95 plus shipping to add L.E.D. lights. It can handle up to 300 L.E.D.'s. These boards are simple to understand, durable, and extremely easy to install, not to mention cost effective also.
I have them in 3 other locomotives and they’ve worked flawlessly for years. Here are some photos of the board as well.
Mine was originally purchased from Evan Designs (888) 764-2610 (M-F) 9a.m. - 3 p.m.
Central Time.
Painting the handrails was a bear because they had been glued in with a non-removable type of glue requiring them to be painted while still attached to the model.
I’ve got to find some matching touch up paint but that may be next to impossible.

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More photos!
Note the letters EM on the photo of the bottom of the open fuel tank. (3rd photo)
The bottom photo shows the front end of the chassis and how it was forced up and damaged in shipping. This now has been repaired nicely.
A few photos below are from before I refurbished and repainted the chassis and drives, when I first received it.
There is some minor damage to the left radiator fins (as in the photo below) that I really don’t know how to fix.
Any ideas on that, let me know.








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I wounder, are the cab and hood urethane castings? somebody made a master and a one off set of castings?

Al P.

Possible, I guess, but it looks like wood in a few places but it’s actually some kind of plastic material, or like you say urethane. I just don’t know how to determine that but it’s extremely thick and durable.