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Hmmmmmmmmm.........pause for thought

""Mouse Story …

A mouse looked through the crack in the wall to see the farmer and his wife open a package.

“What food might this contain?” The mouse wondered - he was devastated to discover it was a mousetrap.

Retreating to the farmyard, the mouse proclaimed the warning.

“There is a mousetrap in the house! There is a mousetrap in the house!”

The chicken clucked and scratched, raised her head and said, “Mr. Mouse, I can tell this is a grave concern to you but it is of no consequence to me. I cannot be bothered by it.”

The mouse turned to the pig and told him, “There is a mousetrap in the house! There is a mousetrap in the house!”

The pig sympathized, but said, “I am so very sorry, Mr. Mouse, but there is nothing I can do about it but pray. Be assured you are in my prayers.”

The mouse turned to the cow and said, “There is a mousetrap in the house! There is a mousetrap in the house!”

The cow said, “Wow, Mr. Mouse. I’m sorry for you, but it’s no skin off my nose.”

So, the mouse returned to the house, head down and dejected, to face the farmer’s mousetrap-- alone.

That very night a sound was heard throughout the house – like the sound of a mousetrap catching its prey.

The farmer’s wife rushed to see what was caught. In the darkness, she did not see it was a venomous snake whose tail the trap had caught. The snake bit the farmer’s wife. The farmer rushed her to the hospital and she returned home with a fever.

Everyone knows you treat a fever with fresh chicken soup, so the farmer took his hatchet to the farmyard for the soup’s main ingredient.

But his wife’s sickness continued, so friends and neighbors came to sit with her around the clock.

To feed them, the farmer butchered the pig. The farmer’s wife did not get well; she died.

So many people came for her funeral, the farmer had the cow slaughtered to provide enough meat for all of them.

The mouse looked upon it all from his crack in the wall with great sadness.

So, the next time you hear someone is facing a problem and think it doesn’t concern you, remember – when one of us is threatened, we are all at risk.

We are all involved in this journey called life. “”

The unexpected domino effect! :wink: :wink:

…yes; like the people who are not interested in the polution in the air, or noise polution, but fail to consider that they too will grow old and have breathing problems, and deafness…

They really do not like to be told that those big motor powered bicycles can run with quiet mufflers…but sure will want their insurance to pay for hearing aids in the future.

back to playing with quiet trains, running on electricity.....!!!!

I agree…IF you are driving by my house…which is a good 40 yards off the highway…and I can hear your stereo INSIDE MY HOUSE…the blasted thing is TOO LOUD!!! We are going to have a generation of deaf folks…

Bart Salmons said:
I agree............IF you are driving by my house....which is a good 40 yards off the highway.....and I can hear your stereo INSIDE MY HOUSE......the blasted thing is TOO LOUD!!!! We are going to have a generation of deaf folks........
'round here it's not likely they'll live long enough to go deaf. The bass vibrates the vehicle so violently nuts and bolts rattle off. Sure is a drag when all your shock hangers fall off on the interstate at 75 MPH :O

JR

Fred Mills said:
.....yes; like the people who are not interested in the polution in the air, or noise polution, but fail to consider that they too will grow old and have breathing problems, and deafness.....

They really do not like to be told that those big motor powered bicycles can run with quiet mufflers…but sure will want their insurance to pay for hearing aids in the future.

back to playing with quiet trains, running on electricity.....!!!!</blockquote>

Fr. Fred

You and I could be poster children for the ad campaign.

The Lone Railroader

Bart Salmons said:
I agree............IF you are driving by my house....which is a good 40 yards off the highway.....and I can hear your stereo INSIDE MY HOUSE......the blasted thing is TOO LOUD!!!! We are going to have a generation of deaf folks........
Bart,

It isn’t the hearing from 40 yards away, it’s feeling the push of those sub-woofers.

The latest craze is having similar systems on the power boats, ahhhhhhh Fall has arrived, Winter is coming and all the “vroom vroom” people are off the lake for a few months. :slight_smile:

Fred Mills said:
.....back to playing with quiet trains, running on electricity.....!!!! Fr. Fred
One of the lesser charms of model train shows is being stuck next to the layout with LOUD sound effects, or worse, between two of them ... hour after hour after hour ... visitors can escape, but not fellow exhibitors. So no, gentle railroad modellers, I DO NOT want to be forced to listen to your exhaust chuffs, air pumps, bells, whistles, station announcements, etc etc And I DO NOT want to spend hours breathing your infernal smoke fluid fumes. Turn the ******** volume down, and leave the smoke fluid home.

Yes your right…its not som much a hearing thing …as standing in the kitchen and FEELING the BOOM BA BOOM BOOM BA BOOM deep in yer gullet!

Ahhhh yes, Chris.

Shades of the ECLSTS, where MTH takes over a big centre booth and puts anyone in a position that they have to breath their poluted air and hear their noise…

No-one will admit it; but the “Smoke” is partially burned oil, which in the real world is considered a polutant, when it is passed out the tail pipe of an automobile.

I once mentioned this on several forums and was promply hit with bird shot.

Noise is the other problem…and again I get shot down most times on other forums.

I do notice that here on LSC there seems to be a more educated group, that understands the perils of polution; except when we get overrun by visitors from elsewhere…!!!

All I can say is BAN THAT LGB MOGUL NOISE SYSTEM  for a start.....!!!!

I’ve noticed on my own indoor layout that sound can get OLD real fast, but outdoors it seems fine to me.

What REALLY annoys me at train shows is the folks that have to have those infernal trip magnets on their too small layouts. The (^&@#*$ horn and bell are constantly going off. Grrrrr!

Warren

NOW you’re getting it!

The MORONS that have to have the latest Phoenix with the volume WIDE OPEN so they can hear it TWO FREAKING BLOCKS AWAY and when it’s near YOU there is no way to talk to anyone AT ALL!

Rule 1 on the CCRy…if you bring a loco to run, and it has a sound system, it MUST HAVE either an on/off switch or an accessible volume control, and you MUST operate them when asked.

Or you go home.
Or, I get out the “remote volume control”, you come bombing around the trestle and there I am laying over the track at Laurel Yard with a 12GA side-by-side.
PERMANENT volume control.

I enjoy a good sound system, but feel that it has its place. I am amazed at how quiet it will get at an event, once the power is turned off to the layout. Outside, I like to see and hear a train come and go, not overwhelm everything in its path or vicinity. I guess some of this has to do with the age of the particpants and their hearing ability. For some, full volume is the only way they can hear it.

I have to laugh about this subject or maybe I’ll cry. About three years ago I worked a train/hobby show and had a guy complain long and loud that the little live steam putt-putt boat I had running as a display was too loud and stank. (they burn olive oil like a candle and don’t make all that much noise)…Across the way was a guy selling vids with the volume cranked up, behind the guy was somebody with MTH o-scale making smoke and noise…He didn’t complain about or to EITHER of these gents (I checked!) just me.

I seriously THOUGHT about running the model hit n’ miss gasoline engine I had along just to REALLY annoy him! (I didn’t)…all I can figure is that maybe he was annoyed with all the people watching my “weird” (read: non choo-choo) stuff run.

Electric trains are quiet :wink:

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Dennis Paulson said:
Electric trains are quiet :wink:

Dennis, Actually they aren’t, how could I otherwise identify a Krok coming down the line at Filisur when it is still almost a mile away? The more modern ones I only manage to identify when they go/start up the hill, but even that sight-unseen at a half mile distance. They are not that quiet and the different engine series have specific sounds. BTW your center cab will have a distinct singing noise at speed and a slight growl at low speed. :wink: Old technology always sounds fairly similar. :wink:

Mik said:
I have to laugh about this subject or maybe I'll cry. About three years ago I worked a train/hobby show and had a guy complain long and loud that the little live steam putt-putt boat I had running as a display was too loud and stank. (they burn olive oil like a candle and don't make all that much noise)...Across the way was a guy selling vids with the volume cranked up, behind the guy was somebody with MTH o-scale making smoke and noise....He didn't complain about or to EITHER of these gents (I checked!) just me.

I seriously THOUGHT about running the model hit n’ miss gasoline engine I had along just to REALLY annoy him! (I didn’t)…all I can figure is that maybe he was annoyed with all the people watching my “weird” (read: non choo-choo) stuff run.


Mik,

It’s the rhythm that threw him off. Probably needs “reprogramming” to delete the “vroom vroom” and “choo-choo” file. :wink: :slight_smile: :smiley:

Bart Salmons said:
We are going to have a generation of deaf folks........
At this point I'd have to go looking for it BUT you have only yourselves to blame (at least partially) approximately 5 years ago before our first daughter was born I subscribed to several "Baby" message boards, etc. one of the articles warned about playing music or anything too load as babies and youngsters ears are much more sensitive to noise damage and subsequent hearing loss than adults. So as adults we play our music as loud as we want or need and those poor kids have no idea until they hit their teens and can't figure out that there is any other setting on teh stereo other than "Eleven" or that baffles were put in mufflers to reduce the noise and that yes you can tell in most vehicles if the engine is running without being able to hear it or that sound travels over water much better than it does in the boat (LOL!)

I’m not so old I don’t remember my loud music days and I’m not so young that I feel that those damn kids play the music too damn loud in the cars and the noisy aftermarket exhaust systems are just that…noisy. It used to be police ticketed folks for useless noise I’m told. No longer. Yup they have a right to listen to it at any level but I have a right NOT to listen to it too. I ALSO have a responsibility to my kids to NOT damage their sensitive hearing with YOUR useless noise. Turn it down or fix the exhaust.

As far as the too loud train shows and too smokey train shows, well? You’ve got a choice to put up with it or complain or not attend. I’ve worked my fair share of noisy train shows and found that I was physically exhausted at the end of the day and even more so thatn working the store at the time. Mostly from listening to Thomas play over and over and over or to the Operation Lifesaver or what have you video playing on an endless loop. They were much louder than any sound system back then.

Chas

Yes about all machines have their own sound , some are really sweet . I worked on / with machinery since 1958 , more time with machines than people , of course most of the time you could not hear a person yell .
Really late at night , train watching , is when you could hear them working a heavy train , far far away .
Even these models , when it is very quiet out at the layout , this little centercab has its own sound …and the Hartland interurbans have their own sound also , some times it is like a electric winding up to speed …like the big ones somewhat .

Chas-

Many years ago an acquaintance and WWII B-26 Marauder pilot Veteran had a run in with a punk in a Camaro at a gas station.

You could not hear what the cashier was saying, nor them you.
He walked over and asked the kid to turn it down.

He turned it up.
This Vet reached out and snapped the outside rear-view mirror off and asked if he was going to turn it down now or should he continue.

Kid called the cops, the Vet got arrested and charged.

Seems he knew some “folks”, like “Guido”, and “Bent-nose Al”.

When he got out he made a call and dropped off some cash.

Both legs, both arms.

Kid didn’t even wipe himself for 3 months.

The Vet is long since dead…so it’s okay to recount it now.

Heh heh heh…good one! What goes around comes around…