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#41

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I don’t subscribe to magazines with a credit card – for the above reason – I use a check.

Oh, and the renewal price is “just $29.95”

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#42

Wendell, oh my! I still get phone calls for one of them services, insisting that I owe them for the past how many years of them NOT sending me subscriptions.

#43

The subscription routine - back then it was door to door visits - was my first encounter with NA selling prowess. 12 mags for x dollars for two years.

69/70 must have been especially critical years in the mag business, four of the twelve folded their tents and two more changed their publishing intervals.

But if was an excellent lesson very early on that things could be “a bit unsteady”.

#44

Joe Zullo said:

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Thanks Joe Z.for the link. We got the $19.95 offer done now.

#45

John Caughey said:

We can all pick our own battles and how much we let the other win… First determine what is Really Important and what isn’t.

My angst was with those ‘cheaters’ that used On30 instead of being ‘purer’ like me and my fellow On3 finescalers! Now that I play with 1:24 I’m a traitor to my own cause!

Let them carry their own torches!

I didn’t subscribe for the Editorial, but for inspiration and fellowship.

If you let them get to you, they’ve won.

John

OK John

I need an explanation. I am embarrassed as a twenty plus year model railroader that I honestly do not know the difference between On30 vs. On3 other than On3 people get very offended if you mistakenly call what they do On30.

#46

Think of 0n3 as 0n36. Does that help with 0n30?

#47

Steve Featherkile said:

Think of 0n3 as 0n36. Does that help with 0n30?

Uhh no. Unless your saying that On3 is O scale 3’ narrow gauge and On30 is O scale 30" gauge. Is that what the difference is?

#48

Devon Sinsley said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Think of 0n3 as 0n36. Does that help with 0n30?

Uhh no. Unless your saying that On3 is O scale 3’ narrow gauge and On30 is O scale 30" gauge. Is that what the difference is?

Bingo!

#49

Steve Featherkile said:

Devon Sinsley said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Think of 0n3 as 0n36. Does that help with 0n30?

Uhh no. Unless your saying that On3 is O scale 3’ narrow gauge and On30 is O scale 30" gauge. Is that what the difference is?

Bingo!

A quote from one of my favorite movies cocktail. “light shines on marble head.” Thanks Steve got it now.

#50

Devon Sinsley said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Devon Sinsley said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Think of 0n3 as 0n36. Does that help with 0n30?

Uhh no. Unless your saying that On3 is O scale 3’ narrow gauge and On30 is O scale 30" gauge. Is that what the difference is?

Bingo!

A quote from one of my favorite movies cocktail. “light shines on marble head.” Thanks Steve got it now.

Well, it was late (for me, at least). Sometimes it takes a bit to get the neurons firing in sequence. :slight_smile:

#51

Devon Sinsley said:

Steve Featherkile said:

Think of 0n3 as 0n36. Does that help with 0n30?

Uhh no. Unless your saying that On3 is O scale 3’ narrow gauge and On30 is O scale 30" gauge. Is that what the difference is?

That’s the beginning of the differences…

The 30 crowd ran on HO track with HO mechanisms under larger bodies. A Bachmann invention.

Now G24, 1:24, is = to 42" ga track … another odd ball… suits me!

John

#52

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

Cliff Jennings said:

Bruce and Dennis, thanks for your responses to what I’d written, I wasn’t sure if I’d gone too far.

And yes, it is VERY challenging (and sometimes expensive) to get a computer design right. This isn’t the proper thread to go into it, but I’d have numerous tips and tricks to offer GR in an article on 3D design and integration with commercial products (as would many others, I’m sure). But Marc has encouraged a dichotomy that not only doesn’t need to exist: it’s counterproductive to GR, and the hobby in general.

But, I’ll probably renew my subscription anyway…

Thanks for letting me blow off a little steam guys.

Cliff

Here comes one of my suggestions: How about writing those tips and tricks up as Articles here on LSC (http://www.largescalecentral.com/articles)? I for one would be a happy reader; anything that makes project progress easier is appreciated.

Me too.

tac
Ottawa Valley GRS
POCR Eastern Extension

#53

**Hans-Joerg Mueller said:**Cliff

Here comes one of my suggestions: How about writing those tips and tricks up as Articles here on LSC (http://www.largescalecentral.com/articles)? I for one would be a happy reader; anything that makes project progress easier is appreciated.

Thanks Hans, that’s a great idea.

#54

Lets throw Gn15 in the mix and really screw things up!

#55

So On3 then runs on its own track? That’s why they (On30) are “cheaters” I think I am beginning to understand. I assume then that HO track scales to 30" in O and not 36"

I like Fn3 better. Lets find a track and then build to it. Much easier.

#56

Devon yes, HO gauge track scales to On30, or 30 inches O scale. I am doing the same in HO, using N gauge track, that scales to about 30 inches in HO scale. I could have gone HOn3, but I am cheap and HOn30 is easy (and less expensive) to get trucks and mechanisms for. Just buy used N scale equipment and bash the heck out of it.

#57

David Maynard said:

Devon yes, HO gauge track scales to On30, or 30 inches O scale. I am doing the same in HO, using N gauge track, that scales to about 30 inches in HO scale. I could have gone HOn3, but I am cheap and HOn30 is easy (and less expensive) to get trucks and mechanisms for. Just buy used N scale equipment and bash the heck out of it.

I guess I was really in the dark. I was never a steam or narrow gauge guy until I decided on Fn3 and the CR&N. I didn’t realize there was a difference. I assumed all HO narrow gauge guys used N track and equipment and all O guys used HO equipment and track when modeling narrow gauge and considered it good enough. So are the 36" versions hand laid scratch built affairs or is their commercially available stuff.

This is actually good to know because I am considering making a model for a local museum. And the stuff she has is HO already but in standard gauge. So I will have to make that a consideration when I do my model if I do it. Long ways away.

#58

Well, to really make things confusing, the H0 gauge track can sub for not only 30 inch and 36 inch, but also for 24 inch gauge track. The models would be appropriately bigger, of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On2_gauge

http://on30annual.com/modular/

If you scroll about half way down the on30annual/modular page, there is a Yahoo group that models Maine 2 ft gauge in 0n30. Looks interesting. You have to join their group to see anything, though.

#59

There you go with the 2 foot thing again I already lack focus

#60

I used Z ga track for Nn3…