Large Scale Central

Finis to an era

To all of U that have had trouble with Bachmann service:

In my post earlier I mentioned that I had called Irv. That was yesterday Friday the 11th. When I got home from work today Saturday the 12th there was a package of counter weights waiting for me.

Dealings with Bachmann have always been satisfactory, they have made good on every product question I have had.

My only disapointment is the promises made in the contest a few years ago. I won a Caboose (yet to be seen).

Now that the cars are out I’ll buy them when I can and be happy to have them.

I think about the same way TOC does and have had my share of time talking with Lee and Bud.

It’s not a perfect world, but I think some folks are trying to make it better.

Ah, just what we have needed. A fine positive note to add to the Bachmann Saga.
With the “NEW” era starting; or at least someone at B’mann thinks there is a new way of doing things; we needed a positive note. Thank you, John, for bringing us ito the new era on level track…!!!

Remember that it is Spring, and the track may appear to be “Level”…but sinkholes develope without warning, and every joint can become a “Broken rail” Look along the track for indications of “Pumping mud”, and you will be reminded of poor roadbed being hidden by a topping of fresh ballast.

Fred:
Lightenup, we have shared a few at one of the ECLSTS back a few years, loved your company.
I see no mud, but I do see some guys at Bachmann trying to do the right thing for US, while being controled by a company that is over the water.

You have to look at what is going on over the water, why do you think copper prices went out of sight. How about other building materials that have been in short supply and up in price. There is a sublimital war on, and its not the guys over here that are doing the planning.

We need to watch our backs!

If they get into brewing, watch out double.

Broke down, opened the Heisler. Love it, will be right at home with the shays and climaxes.

John Ramsden said:
HUMMMM:

Seems like yesterday that the Shay was first released, got me hooked on LS. Swapped a few trucks, made my own modification for the Climax shaft binding, fixed the truck on my Connie tender, modified the drive shaft on my Berlin work Goose.

Finally got a K and Heisler this week, (Heisler in box for BD). Haven’t run the K but checked the cranks and they are looose. Called Irv, cranks in mail. Read the news, got my cutters sharpened.

As usual, Dave is correct, Kader is twisting Bachmann again and blowing more smoke than their engines.

I WILL keep buying their 1:20 products because they are a reasonable value for the cost, and can be made an excellent product with a little hobby effort. ( I love this hobby).

Got to go, it’s beer time somewhereeere!


John you and the others that caan do this work are the lucky ones. I’m not skilled enought to do that kind of work. YOur right on they are a good price but if you can’t run it with out fixing it first then its not much of a deal. I wish I had that kind of skill so I could afford to get some of them. I would love a Shay but can’t afford a non Bachmann and can’t fix the bachmann one. So I will just make do with what works from the start.
Just my thoughts on things.

Geoff:
Thats what dave does, he makes them work, if you want one (any BM product) he can make it work, and he is cost effective. Call or email him with your desires, he is REALLY a neat guy.

Geoff,

In my previous life I spent 30 years servicing machine tools, I remember back in 1972 when the first Chinese stuff showed up at a fair in Toronto … it was hmmmmmmmmmm time.
Ten years later I bought a Taiwanese milling machine - small enough to fit where it needed to fit but large enough to do the work required - my shop was in the basement of the house. Since it had to be partially dismantled I decided it was just as easy to rescrape all the ways and seating surfaces before I reassembled. Turned out to be a hybrid after that, Swiss scraping and fitting, combined with Chinese electrics and spindle assembly. I always thought that some of those machines should have been sold as kits. :wink: :slight_smile: At least then one would see right off the bat what needed a “touch up”.

Oh yeah, servicing the Chinese machines, I only did that for friends and aquaintances who would otherwise have been “stuck” (i.e. strictly as a favour), anyone else “Sorry, I’m really busy!”. The quality was just not worth the hassle i.e. instead of a pin the “jokers” would use a nail and bend it. Drilled and tapped holes that were only partially within the casting were not a rare occurrence etc. etc. etc.

Fred Mills said:
Some "Holier Than Thou", self rightious TWITS have emailed me and even called me to tell me that I'm going to Hell, and am nothing more than a drunk.
C U there, mate!

Remember Mark Twain’s aphorism: “Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.”

John Ramsden said:
Geoff: Thats what dave does, he makes them work, if you want one (any BM product) he can make it work, and he is cost effective. Call or email him with your desires, he is REALLY a neat guy.
Yes I know that Dave does and I have seen some of his work. True master. I guess my point should have been that one should not have to redo it if its new. Dave will get my only Bachmann loco when it bites the dust. I got a Christmas Anne New for $50.00 off that action site last year and will see how long untill it dies. I only run it at christmas tie so I'm hoping a few years but it was making noise at the end of the Christmas season this year.

Dave might get it this year. Have to see what the redo cost first on the lay out.

It isn’t over until the Fat Lady croaks…!!!

Kudos for Bachmann service if you can contact them!!! Not everyone has the good fortitude to be living in the continental United States. In a cyber world why is it that B’mann Service will not respond to emails and only takes personal phone calls? The continuing manufacturing shortcomings at the company have seen me look elsewhere when it comes to product purchases. If prices are to increase with increasing complexity and product reliability is not increasing then a reliable service centre is essential. However, that service centre should be available to the whole market and not only to those who live next door. Bachmann is a ‘world’ company. About time it looked at its basic operating premise and realised that its market is not simply the United States. My only recourse to date has been to buy extra new items, simply as a source of spare parts. This is definately not cost effective!

In so far as Irv getting the parts delivered the next day, well a bit of basic engineering design skill would have shown that the initial crank design on the K-27 was flawed. We waited several years for the K to arrive and yet it seems that, while the initial idea was not rushed, the actual production was a last minute affair. Could it be that the design, being based on a HoN3 loco, was flawed in that the designers of the G scale loco simply expanded the original HoN3 model dimensions to G scale and thus amplified the original clearances in the engineering designs for the smaller loco? If so, then what other problems are we to anticipate. Long before this loco was released I hinted at the possible problems that may be expected, due the complexity of this loco and was shot down in flames as a rumour monger. Well, so far I have not had to eat humble pie as the end product has fulfilled my predictions.

If it were not for the likes of ‘troubleshooter’ wizards like Dave, then would Bachmann still be riding the crest of the wave or would we still be running basic r/c trains with batteries in the boiler? Dave’s constant product improvement to achieve reliabilty has helped the company attain the current ‘high standings’ that it enjoys. Who in Bachmann actually improves the product as Dave does? Is there anyone employed to actually correct design flaws or is the beta market a cheaper economic solution? A beseiged ruler will always kill the messenger when he hears news that he, or his advisers, does not agree with. However, the death of the messenger is an indication of the future prospects for the ruler’s survival. If I were Ceasar, in the Colisseum, then it would be a definate ‘thumbs down’ .

Hmmmm Some have asked why I’ve drifted towards 7 1/2" gauge ride-on trains … see all of the above discussion. I’ll be able to spend the money from my GR subscription on a couple of gallons of gas for the train (if it doesn’t go up too much more)

Never buy the first run of anything.

Tom Smith said:
Hmmmm Some have asked why I've drifted towards 7 1/2" gauge ride-on trains ... see all of the above discussion. I'll be able to spend the money from my GR subscription on a couple of gallons of gas for the train (if it doesn't go up too much more)
[b]'Cause you're much too old to walk?[/b] ;) :D :)
Richard Smith said:
Tom Smith said:
Hmmmm Some have asked why I've drifted towards 7 1/2" gauge ride-on trains ... see all of the above discussion. I'll be able to spend the money from my GR subscription on a couple of gallons of gas for the train (if it doesn't go up too much more)
[b]'Cause you're much too old to walk?[/b] ;) :D :)
Well Yeah...That too!!! Probably a little too Fat also....

I think a NEW era has started…at least for me.
It’s a NEW ERA of “Using the stuff I have”, and NOT buying anythig more for the railroad.
But, for me that is easy, because they aren’t producing anything I want or need. I have it all and am happy with what I have.

I will say, that I did have some sort of an idea of what kind of a railroad I wanted, when I started, and never lost track of where I was heading. That helped a lot.

SO…the NEW ERA for me is just starting, and it looks like fun.

I gotta agree with Fred…me personally I’ve gone from the “Someday” Layout to “What am I gonna work on TODAY?”…

10 years plus of plotting, planning, dreaming, and scheming…FINALLY!

I asked my wife if she fancied a 7.5inch ride-on Climax. I cant understand her reticence…

I’d give just about anything for a Climax…!!!

At last…